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Delaware News / Re: ...And Another Piece of Horrible Proposed Legislation
« Last post by slsharp on April 30, 2024, 12:38:21 PM »
Volunteer to be a Person prohibited .... virtue signaling? .... is it possible to ask what is the 'stand' ?
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Delaware News / Re: Delaware Seeks to Redefine Firearm
« Last post by Just Bill on April 27, 2024, 06:26:08 PM »
And with the republican turnout of the last election, 35% only voted, we will have more of the same...
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Delaware News / Re: Delaware Seeks to Redefine Firearm
« Last post by MarcWinkman on April 27, 2024, 04:59:05 PM »
Throwing a baseball it's a projectile by mechanical means from arms.....

Well, technically that would be a firearm since the bat's being launched by the guns.  In all seriousness, however, this is in the category of things that prove our elected overlords are not terribly well educated and seek to have subjects to rule over as opposed to citizens who may act as a check upon their authority.  Unfortunate for the citizenry of Delaware, most believe the propaganda, and most are aligned with our overlords; they are happy to be subjects.
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Delaware News / Re: Delaware Seeks to Redefine Firearm
« Last post by Oaklandopen on April 27, 2024, 02:57:53 PM »
Throwing a baseball it's a projectile by mechanical means from arms.....
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Delaware News / Re: Delaware Seeks to Redefine Firearm
« Last post by Just Bill on April 26, 2024, 11:16:37 PM »
It is already illegal to carry a concealed weapon without a permit, but they ignore those criminals.  It is us law abiding citizens they are after.  And a BB gun shoot a projectile propelled by a gas in many cases, CO2...or air is a gas.
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Delaware Concealed Carry Information / Re: permit renewal
« Last post by Clarence on April 26, 2024, 04:23:14 PM »
Thanks for the update.  Everyone should do this.
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Delaware Concealed Carry Information / Re: permit renewal
« Last post by WISECU on April 26, 2024, 02:20:03 PM »
Hello,
I thought I would pass on that received my renewal yesterday 4/25/24 and sent in on 3/4/24.  NCC  About the same time as before.
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Delaware News / Re: Delaware Seeks to Redefine Firearm
« Last post by Oaklandopen on April 26, 2024, 02:00:37 PM »
How is a BB gun not included when it by definition shoots a projectile

I guess that would include rubber band hand shooting
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Delaware News / Re: ...And Another Piece of Horrible Proposed Legislation
« Last post by Oaklandopen on April 26, 2024, 01:59:18 PM »
I'm not sure who would do this

Mayyybe someone with suicidal tendencies but there are about a billion other ways to succeed

Just sounds unnecessary to the point there must be something else nefarious within the legislation

"I'm registering myself to not be able to vote in the next election"
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Delaware News / ...And Another Piece of Horrible Proposed Legislation
« Last post by MarcWinkman on April 26, 2024, 01:33:21 PM »
And our elected overlords are proposing HB 342 to create a "voluntary do not sell registry" for firearms.  Basically a person goes into a State Police Troop, fills out a form to voluntary make themselves a Person Prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm or other deadly weapon (presumably including the new category of "projectile weapon" if/when that nonsense passes) and that prohibits them until such time as they petition for removal from that registry...I assume that removal from that registry will be about as simple, straightforward, swift, and inexpensive as seeking removal from the child protective registry (another horrible legislative creation in Delaware) or the sex offender registry (yes there are folks that are wrongfully on there, many for having taken a pee on the dumpsters behind the bar in Newark after closing while attending UD).

My problem with this is that it is a true first step to the State creating a firearms registration requirement.  Another problem that I have is that this allows a person to waive an inherent constitutional right under the United States and Delaware Constitutions without the benefit of due process and a hearing before a judicial officer where they can be advised of their rights and where a finding by a judicial officer that the waiver is knowing, voluntary, and intelligent can be made upon a record in court.  A third concern, the obvious potential for misuse by the State; imagine a person puts themselves on this list voluntarily. The State Police then use this voluntary registration to form a basis of probable cause upon which to seek a search warrant, go to the registrant's home, seize all weapons, and then felonize them by charging them with possession of a deadly weapon by a person prohibited or alternatively with possession of a firearm by a person prohibited.  This is really not good and it is precisely the reason that a judicial determination and oversight are required when a person is relinquishing constitutional rights.
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