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DSSA ACTION ALERT
« on: July 26, 2013, 01:08:05 AM »
SECOND AMENDMENT ACTION ALERT NETWORK
   
 
 
BEAU BIDEN'S LATEST SCHEME TO INTERFERE WITH YOUR RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE
 
 
 
It's summertime. The General Assembly is in recess, the State Fair is under way and we should be safe from the depredations of Delaware's elitist anti-gun crowd, right? 
 
 
 
WRONG!
 
 
 
With hundreds of legitimate concealed carry permit applications clogging their desks, the Attorney General's office is working late into the night to concoct new and innovative ways to "mess with" concealed carry license holders and to make it more difficult for you as a law-abiding citizen to defend yourself and your loved ones from the criminals they refuse to prosecute for violent gun crimes. Apparently refusing to properly process current applications and renewals isn't good enough for Beau Biden and his elitist anti-gun cronies.
 
 
 
Here's their latest scheme: They want to require that every permit holder "qualify" with their carry piece every year. What's more they want you to declare which piece you are going to carry and to license you for just that one piece. (That's what cops do - they must think you're a cop).
 
 
 
And there's more - we don't know the whole plan right now, but you can rest assured that Attorney General Biden and his anti-gun henchmen are planning more and better ways to inflict as much financial pain, inconvenience and regulatory agony upon you, Delaware's law abiding gun owners, as possible.
 
 
 
CALL TO ACTION
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 01:14:00 AM »
I'd like to believe it's not true...
but, as I said to David Keene, "I'm the id10t who's been telling people 'Relax: Obama's not coming after our guns.'"
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 01:30:20 AM »
Here's what I received from Bridgeville R&P - includes contact info

BRIDGEVILLE RIFLE & PISTOL CLUB, LTD.

SECOND AMENDMENT ACTION ALERT NETWORK

 

BEAU BIDEN'S LATEST SCHEME TO INTERFERE WITH YOUR RIGHT TO SELF DEFENSE

 

It's summertime. The General Assembly is in recess, the State Fair is under way and we should be safe from the depredations of Delaware's elitist anti-gun crowd, right?

 

WRONG!

 

With hundreds of legitimate concealed carry permit applications clogging their desks, the Attorney General's office is working late into the night to concoct new and innovative ways to "mess with" concealed carry license holders and to make it more difficult for you as a law-abiding citizen to defend yourself and your loved ones from the criminals they refuse to prosecute for violent gun crimes. 

 

Apparently refusing to properly process current applications and renewals isn't good enough for Beau Biden and his elitist anti-gun cronies.

 

Here's their latest scheme: They want to require that every permit holder "qualify" with their carry piece every year. What's more they want you to declare which piece you are going to carry and to license you for just that one piece. (That's what cops do - they must think you're a cop).

 

And there's more - we don't know the whole plan right now, but you can rest assured that Attorney General Biden and his anti-gun henchmen are planning more and better ways to inflict as much financial pain, inconvenience and regulatory agony upon you, Delaware's law abiding gun owners, as possible.

 

CALL TO ACTION

 

Call Attorney General Biden today and

    Tell him to leave Delaware's concealed carry permit system alone.
    Tell him it works just fine the way it is (or it would, if he did his job).
    Tell him that if he wants to help make Delaware a safer place to live he should support "Shall Issue "legislation.
    And tell him to clear the log jam of applications that is stacked up in his office so the Courts can do their jobs.
    Tell him to prosecute the real criminals and to stop persecuting law-abiding gun owners.

Attorney General Biden can be reached by calling his Wilmington office at 302-577-8400. 

 

Or, feel free to call his office in Sussex at 302-856-5353 or his office in Kent at 302-739-7641.

 

Beau Biden's email address is Attorney.General@state.de.us. If you can't get Beau, just leave a message.

 

And remember - be polite......

 
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 02:46:34 AM »
Someone needs to verify this information. So far, I can't find anything to confirm it.
If true, I suspect that this is retaliation for the strong opposition to HB-88.

Does anyone know if it is within Biden's power to make such changes?
If it is, what is the best course of action to fight him?

As it stands, his record on fighting crime is abysmal. I suspect that much will be made of
his failure come election time.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2013, 04:20:10 AM »
The entire process of obtaining and using a carry permit is spelled out clearly in the Delaware Code (as we all know - Title 11, Chapter 5, Subchapter VII, 1441-1461).  Because all this in in the code, it would seem that it would require a new law or revision to existing law to implement Biden's changes.  That can only be done by the Delaware Legislature and cannot be ordered by AG Biden, I believe.  I'm not sure if this is correct but it seems to be.
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 05:04:02 AM »
Clogging up the CCDW permit works is within the power of the AG but what isn't (as MarkB pointed out) is annual qual and the sidearm limitation which is required for retired LEOs to carry CCW in Delaware.  They want to make us dance to the same tune but they need to change the law. IANAL

http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/consumers/protection/lawenforcement/LEOSA030408.pdf
STATE OF DELAWARE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Law Enforcement Officers’ Safety Act of 2003 Advisory HR 218
18 U.S.C. § 926

Retired Law Enforcement Officer:
6. During the most recent 12 month period, has met, at the expense of the individual, the State of Delaware standards for training and qualification for active law enforcement officers to carry firearms, as established by the Council on Police Training (“COPT”).

And in their application, they must certify that:
I understand that I must meet the State of Delaware’s standards for training and qualification for retired law enforcement officers to carry the firearm of the type and caliber and serial number listed on the State of Delaware Retired Police Officer Concealed Weapons Qualification Notification form.

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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 09:08:39 AM »
  IF this is true,  then what happens when your gun needs repair?  "are you serious?".   no gun for weeks, because you can change up?

Really.   
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2013, 11:32:24 AM »
Saw it in the News Urinal this morning, made my coffee boil in the cup.  My guess is that this is coming from Markell, with the more than willing help from Beau.  Kind of like..." hey Beau, let's see what we can do to registar the guns of carry permit people, and screw up the system."  They should drop the requirement on the retired cops, instead of putting it on us.

What the heck is Markell running for, Pres???  He is getting his name/pic posted almost as much as Obama.
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2013, 11:57:26 AM »
All just talk so far, but you know that is the first step...It would take a change to Chapter 11 (by the house and senate) to do what they are talking about. None of it is good. They will try to use this and trade for some other thing. Just watch...
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2013, 12:13:11 PM »
Well, if they want to make our requirements like LEOSA, lets have the SAME coverage (ALL 50 states).
Other than that, place it where there's little sunshine.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2013, 01:13:53 PM »
 Here is my response to the News Journal article, this morning:

http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130726/NEWS/307260043/Concealed-weapon-permit-changes-floated

It's increasingly clear that the current administration is continuing to entertain proposals that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms. There has not been some rash of incidents of concealed carry permit holders inappropriately using their weapons. National statistics show that CCW holders are actually doing a BETTER job of making choices to deploy a weapon and are less likely to injure bystanders than actual law enforcement officers.

This is just another "common sense" proposal by the anti-gun crowd - a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Unlike a drivers license, the right to keep and bear arms is a constitutional right, although Delaware is among a minority of states that consider CCW as a "privilege" - we are a "may issue" state, while most are "shall issue" states for qualified applicants.

Requiring proficiency testing or linking the permit to specific firearms are simply methods to add cost to the process, seek alternative "registration" of firearms and erect barriers to concealed carry. There is strong evidence that increased numbers of CCW licenses correlates to lower crime rates. Why would we want to add restrictions and conditions, when there is no evidence of inappropriate use? Certainly not in contrast with the benefits to the community.
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Re: DSSA ACTION ALERT
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 03:08:57 PM »
Looks like we will be busy again when the new legislative session starts.

Thank them all for the heads up. Now we have plenty of time to develop
an action plan.

Does anyone know how many (few) arrests have been made in Wilmington for
illegal gun possession?
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 03:24:49 PM »
MAKE SURE YOU NOTIFY YOUR STATE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 04:10:22 PM »
For groundgrid: Does anyone know how many (few) arrests have been made in Wilmington for
illegal gun possession?

According to state statistical analysis director in 2011 there were 1199 arrests made for possession of a firearm by a person prohibited.  Of those arrests only 204 convictions occurred and 8 more convictions as an included lesser offense.

When nearly 1000 people in one year arrested for possession of a firearm by a person prohibited throughout the state walk free on that charge the AG's office should look to address problems in its own back yard before they seek to fix a problem that does not exist.  I have failed to find the common sense in passing new laws to keep firearms out of peoples hands who are not permitted to own firearms but when authorities make an arrest on that very charge the state fails to convict them. 
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