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CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: NormH3 on September 25, 2016, 04:11:54 PM

Title: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 25, 2016, 04:11:54 PM
I'm looking for those that are willing to tell me how long it took to get your CCW permit. My state representative is Bryan Townsend and when I asked him why did it take so long for an approval, he asked me to give him details. Yes , he is a Democrat but at one time he mentioned that he planned to purchase a firearm for purposes of protection. His father is a former Newark PD officer. I believe that it shouldn't take 6 months to get an approval/denial once you submit an application. Thank you for your input.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: joep19934 on September 25, 2016, 04:31:03 PM
I got my CCDW in like 18-19 Business Days - if you count Saturday and Sundays = 26 days. ;D
My renewal took almost 2 months but I was late getting it in so I can't complain.  :o
I was glad I didn't have to go through the process all over again !  ::)
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Adrenolin on September 25, 2016, 05:37:06 PM
NCC is a solid 5-6 months wait typically.. ours took 8-9 months 3.5 years ago. It's politically motivated by holding back resources and not wanting to streamline it. It's also a well known tactic in deterring people from applying in the first place. In fact, it should take no more then a 30 minutes to drop off the application and documents, have the background check done, print out a card and leave with it in your wallet. Mailing it all in you should receive your permit back within the week.

Again.. It's political and unfortunately not likely to change.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 25, 2016, 05:45:15 PM
NCC is a solid 5-6 months wait typically.. ours took 8-9 months 3.5 years ago. It's politically motivated by holding back resources and not wanting to streamline it. It's also a well known tactic in deterring people from applying in the first place. In fact, it should take no more then a 30 minutes to drop off the application and documents, have the background check done, print out a card and leave with it in your wallet. Mailing it all in you should receive your permit back within the week.

Again.. It's political and unfortunately not likely to change.
I agree and it shouldn't be politically motivated. Why does it take a person from Kent or Sussex County to receive theirs in a matter of weeks when NCC takes 6 months? Something is not right about that. Even if you are declined, it shouldn't take more than 60 days with today's technology. This is an honest endeavor on my behalf. Delaware is considered a May Issue state, but from what I can tell it's pretty much Shall Issue. The wait time doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 25, 2016, 05:50:20 PM
I got my CCDW in like 18-19 Business Days - if you count Saturday and Sundays = 26 days. ;D
My renewal took almost 2 months but I was late getting it in so I can't complain.  :o
I was glad I didn't have to go through the process all over again !  ::)
Thank you for responding. 26 days seems reasonable. It doesn't explain why it takes over 6 months in NCC. Hopefully others will chime in.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Adrenolin on September 25, 2016, 05:56:40 PM
Again.. It's politically motivated. Additionally each county processes their own applications partially with the exception of the background checks which are all done in NCC by a limited staff who process background checks as a low priority to other tasks. Since is should go without saying that NCC is much busier AND much more politically left then Kent and Sussex counties, the extra time wait is understandable.

Even 26 days isn't reasonable.. it's simply faster with the same wait times. It could be done in 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 25, 2016, 06:00:13 PM
Again.. It's politically motivated. Additionally each county processes their own applications partially with the exception of the background checks which are all done in NCC by a limited staff who process background checks as a low priority to other tasks. Since is should go without saying that NCC is much busier AND much more politically left then Kent and Sussex counties, the extra time wait is understandable.


When I buy a firearm at an FFL, it takes 5 minutes for a background check. The CCW is state issued, not County issued. It should take the same no matter where you live.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Adrenolin on September 25, 2016, 06:18:18 PM
You're not understanding the process. While it's is a state issued permit each county processes the application. Hence why you submit the application is the county you reside in. If the paperwork is all in order without mistakes or missing documents then your file is sent to NCC for the background check. Both southern counties are less busy then NCC and both are more politically friendly to firearms then NCC.. So your application is processed quicker and sent to NCC then the applications actually in NCC would be. Once in NCC the background checks are batch processed when time and resources permit so the time frame here is equal for all counties. Then, if all is ok and the check passed, your file is returned for processing by the office and judge of your own county. I'm 99% sure this is correct and how it was explained to me. Now again, since both southern counties are not so politically left, not as busy and possibly have a dedicated person processing the applications and forwarding them to the judge for final say and signature things move along faster then in NCC.

Think of it like this.. Sussex and Kent want you to have a permit and NCC doesn't. Whose gonna do it faster? Again.. Politically motivated and lacking funds can and will hold up the process and that's how politics and agendas work. It has nothing to do with how things should be.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 25, 2016, 06:36:32 PM
You're not understanding the process. While it's is a state issued permit each county processes the application. Hence why you submit the application is the county you reside in. If the paperwork is all in order without mistakes or missing documents then your file is sent to NCC for the background check. Both southern counties are less busy then NCC and both are more politically friendly to firearms then NCC.. So your application is processed quicker and sent to NCC then the applications actually in NCC would be. Once in NCC the background checks are batch processed when time and resources permit so the time frame here is equal for all counties. Then, if all is ok and the check passed, your file is returned for processing by the office and judge of your own county. I'm 99% sure this is correct and how it was explained to me. Now again, since both southern counties are not so politically left, not as busy and possibly have a dedicated person processing the applications and forwarding them to the judge for final say and signature things move along faster then in NCC.

Think of it like this.. Sussex and Kent want you to have a permit and NCC doesn't. Whose gonna do it faster? Again.. Politically motivated and lacking funds can and will hold up the process and that's how politics and agendas work. It has nothing to do with how things should be. Understanding the process and agreeing with it are two different things.

I appreciate your comments, but it doesn't explain to me why it takes 6 times longer to receive a permit in NCC. I've decided not to sit on my butt about this and start writing my Reps. I would hope that those that already have their permits would do the same. Twenty some people have viewed this but only two have responded. I'm really looking for some round numbers so I can make my point to reps. Again....the permit is provided by the State and not by the individual county. Politics shouldn't play a part. Not sure why you don't understand the logic in that.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Lumspond on September 25, 2016, 07:25:40 PM
In NCC:
New app, 19 weeks
1st renewal, 18 weeks
2nd renewaal, 8 weeks
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: del elec on September 25, 2016, 10:38:09 PM
In NCC : I submitted my renewal and my wife's initial application together on February 10. I received mine in 48 days, my wife in 83 days.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Grettski on September 25, 2016, 11:11:34 PM
Kent county here. My wife and I both applied April 15th. We were told to expect to hear back within 60 days. It's now been over 160 and we're still waiting. We did attempt to contact them a while back just to see if there was a problem. No response.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Sinker on September 25, 2016, 11:17:20 PM
Received mine just a few weeks ago in NCCo.  Total wait was 4 months.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Adrenolin on September 26, 2016, 05:10:35 AM
I appreciate your comments, but it doesn't explain to me why it takes 6 times longer to receive a permit in NCC. I've decided not to sit on my butt about this and start writing my Reps. I would hope that those that already have their permits would do the same. Twenty some people have viewed this but only two have responded. I'm really looking for some round numbers so I can make my point to reps. Again....the permit is provided by the State and not by the individual county. Politics shouldn't play a part. Not sure why you don't understand the logic in that.

Its politics.. there is no logic in politics. Also, Yes it is a State Issued permit but processed and granted by county employees. For example.. the judge who granted and signed my permit is The Honorable Richard R. Cooch whose is a Resident Judge for New Castle County. This is a country position. Kent and Sussex counties both have their own resident judges (again, county positions) who have the final say in granting permits for their respectable counties. This isn't that difficult to understand.

The only thing that takes place in NCC for the other 2 counties is the background checks. Everything else is done in their own county court house.

I agree that politics shouldn't play a part in it but its a government issued permit to carry a firearm in a pretty far left state with a VERY left NCC and more right southern counties. If you don't think politics plays into this in NCC that's just being naive. I don't mean that in a hurtful way but its the truth. If politics in NCC had their way we'd be a no-issue state! Thankfully the DE constitution protects our ability to CC and own firearms however it doesn't stop the flow of money and that can easily slow things down legally.

Contact the Office of the Governor (http://governor.delaware.gov/forms/emailthegovernor.shtml), Jack Markell directly and ask his staff. That IS the highest level of state and the best place for your answer. I've contacted his office a few times and have always had a reply within a day or so and followup emails were quick. Two times it was firearm related.

You'll get a few replies here but were just a fairly small number of permit holders in the state and not many active users. Go down through the "General CCW Discussion" and "New CCW Permit Holders" sub-forums and you'll find a number of people have posted their wait times though you'll have to go through that yourself instead of people simply posting here for you.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Richie on September 26, 2016, 10:51:55 AM
I'm in Sussex, took me 17 weeks last year.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: rainman378 on September 26, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
I'm in NCC and received my CCDW permit this year. It took 4 months.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: rhett4 on September 26, 2016, 04:31:26 PM
I was in NCC and it took me 5 months to get mine. Then the renewal took about 4 months.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: 8thFA on September 27, 2016, 12:36:03 AM
I got mine this Febuary, took around 46 days.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: topper on September 27, 2016, 03:53:19 AM
I applied the end of April. It took 4 1/2 months to get mine!
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 27, 2016, 12:13:42 PM
I got mine this Febuary, took around 46 days.

Which county are you in?
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Obleo on September 27, 2016, 01:46:21 PM
Kent County 6 weeks initial, 4 weeks re-up.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: NormH3 on September 27, 2016, 02:23:33 PM
I applied the end of April. It took 4 1/2 months to get mine!

Which County?
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: MarcWinkman on September 27, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
I'm in NCC, 8 weeks and still waiting. 
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: topper on September 27, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
I applied the end of April. It took 4 1/2 months to get mine!

Which County?

New Castle County!
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: 8thFA on September 27, 2016, 11:41:04 PM
I got mine this Febuary, took around 46 days.

Which county are you in?
New Castle
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: PPScarry on September 28, 2016, 12:23:01 PM
NCCO 11 weeks. Applied in February.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: WISECU on October 11, 2016, 04:51:25 PM
NCC - 17 weeks.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: rikwick on October 11, 2016, 10:16:22 PM
Took me 18 wks in NCC last year.  I disagree it is politely motivated as far as the wait time being so long.  The state is cheap when it comes to taking care of it's employees regarding pay, they lack the resources to deal with the volume.  Unless you are a criminal or drug addict or mentally challenged Delaware will not kick out the money to pay employees to process the needs of law abiding citizens.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on October 11, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
Been 5 years ago now, but it took 8weeks to get DECCW. Also got my PA permit, took 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Bodine on October 13, 2016, 01:59:51 AM
I mailed my application on 4-23-16 along with my fathers. Dad received his permit about a month ago. I know 5 other guys that took the class together and mailed theirs in May. Everyone has their permit except me. I called the court and was told there is no hold up and to just be patient. I've bought 2 handguns in recent months with no problems. I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Revmacde on November 15, 2016, 07:25:06 AM
Hello, I filed completed application July 18, 2016 in the Prothonotary's office of New Castle County, hand delivered.  Was told by the clerk that it would take from 3-6 months.  No real reason.  No response yet and I've heard that there is no way of checking progress.  Seems to me that such a wait is a deterrent. But that's the story. 
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Carlos on November 18, 2016, 02:33:42 AM
Hello, I filed completed application July 18, 2016 in the Prothonotary's office of New Castle County, hand delivered.  Was told by the clerk that it would take from 3-6 months.  No real reason.  No response yet and I've heard that there is no way of checking progress.  Seems to me that such a wait is a deterrent. But that's the story. 

I also submitted my application on the 18th of July, I've been told he a few people that we might receive it in December if all goes well. I'm in the same boat as you, the wait is brutal.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on November 18, 2016, 02:45:32 PM
Hopefully you will all get your new DECCW's by December, because if you don't it is going to be pandemonium come Jan. 2nd when the renewals start coming in as well. The rule use to be that renewals get processed first then new applications second.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Revmacde on November 20, 2016, 02:42:02 AM
Update:::: :) :) :) :) Wait is over.

Just arrived today!!!!  Filed 18Jul16 received 19Nov16.  17 weeks and a few days. 
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: PPScarry on November 20, 2016, 02:03:01 PM
Update:::: :) :) :) :) Wait is over.

Just arrived today!!!!  Filed 18Jul16 received 19Nov16.  17 weeks and a few days. 


YES! I know how you feel. Great.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Lumspond on November 20, 2016, 06:34:01 PM
Great news! Congratulations. Good to know there is another good guy with a firearm out there.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: Carlos on November 21, 2016, 02:14:47 AM
Update:::: :) :) :) :) Wait is over.

Just arrived today!!!!  Filed 18Jul16 received 19Nov16.  17 weeks and a few days. 

Congrats!!! I filled the same day so hopefully I get mine this week. Stay safe!
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: being safe on November 22, 2016, 07:24:45 PM
It took my son and I over 5 months here in NCC.
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: joep19934 on November 22, 2016, 10:10:39 PM
Congrats and safe carry
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: lynch on November 23, 2016, 09:42:14 AM
Delaware CCDW  19 days

Pennsylvania LTCF  25 minutes

Utah CFP 55 days
Title: Re: Please tell me of your experience
Post by: seniorgeek on November 28, 2016, 01:22:50 PM
DE CCDW 4 months
PA LTCF about 25 minutes
Utah CFP 51 days