Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
General Gun Discussion => Ammunition and Re-Loading => Topic started by: sethinde on June 25, 2013, 03:16:21 AM
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I bought a box of 20 Liberty Ammunition Ultimate Defense 9mm (50 Grains :o ) a while ago and I am going to put a few rounds through my XDm 3.8. I am considering using this as my carry ammo. I was just curious if anyone else uses it, or has experience with it.
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Assuming the 50 grains is a powder measure and not the bullet weight, these must be ++P, no?
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http://www.blackriflemags.com/product/liberty-ammunition-ultra-defense-9mm/ (http://www.blackriflemags.com/product/liberty-ammunition-ultra-defense-9mm/)
Is this the ammo you're referring to? I ask because you asked about LA "Ultimate" Defense and the only term I could find was "Ultra" defense.. wasn't sure if I just couldn't find info on the "Ultra".
I don't have any first hand experience with it. I did search for the name + reviews and came across this thread. They have gel shot video and discuss it on there. http://www.ar-15.co/threads/93123-New-Ammo (http://www.ar-15.co/threads/93123-New-Ammo)
Hope this helps!
Moosie
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That is indeed the ammo I was referring to. I finally tracked down 3 Boxes of 20 rounds for testing. I am going to shoot a ham, some water bottles frozen and unfrozen and some old computer parts. I will post results. The 50 grains listed is for the weight of the bullet. They are +P rounds and have a high velocity. They are listed at 2000 FPS, but most people see 1800-1900+. Supposedly they are very nasty. I do know they come at a premium. $29.99 for 20 rounds, but my wife and daughter's Lives are worth it. They are very light weight and I had to open the box to verify that there were in fact 20 rounds in the box. It's like a box of air. I think this will make for a more lightweight comfortable carry.
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That is indeed the ammo I was referring to. I finally tracked down 3 Boxes of 20 rounds for testing. I am going to shoot a ham, some water bottles frozen and unfrozen and some old computer parts. I will post results. The 50 grains listed is for the weight of the bullet. They are +P rounds and have a high velocity. They are listed at 2000 FPS, but most people see 1800-1900+. Supposedly they are very nasty. I do know they come at a premium. $29.99 for 20 rounds, but my wife and daughter's Lives are worth it. They are very light weight and I had to open the box to verify that there were in fact 20 rounds in the box. It's like a box of air. I think this will make for a more lightweight comfortable carry.
I currently have these in my ccw, though I have not had a chance to fire them yet.
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You carry ammo you have never fired from your carry firearm???!!!
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You carry ammo you have never fired from your carry firearm???!!!
I carry what I can find. I plan however to remedy that tomorrow.
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You carry ammo you have never fired from your carry firearm???!!!
I would not shoot any ammo from my carry pistol until I have tried it at the range to see how it performs.
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I remember reading their stats being for full sized firearms and in smaller, more concealable firearms with shorter barrels those specs we greatly diminished! It was awhile ago that I read the article but will try and find it again later tonight.
Looking at the ballistic gel tests I didn't like the fragmentation of the round nor the initial explosive impact. I think the round expands to much and to quickly. A medium coat, sweatshirt and an undershirt could have this expanding way to soon. I'd like to see a lot more testing done before I'd feel ok with it.
I'll stick with Gold Dots, etc in our SD firearms until I see more testing. My and my family's lives are worth that. ;D
Its an interesting round for sure but it is entirely untested compared to the others duty and SD rounds available today.. IMO of course. I will say Great marketing though!