The problem with most (but not all) Conservatives is that they grumble and whine about things, but seldom act until it's too late. And, Independents? Don't get me started on them. They are people that will tell you they are not involved in politics and could care less, and then at the last minute turn on CNN or MSM to find out the way the rest of the people are said to be voting, then go and vote that way too. Just so they will still look cool, and can remain without a true conviction, and can remain blameless.