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State News & Gun News => NRA & National Gun News => Topic started by: Cbmarine on September 09, 2014, 12:29:11 PM

Title: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Cbmarine on September 09, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
"Panera was "respectfully requesting" customers to leave their firearms at home, but will continue to follow state and local firearms laws." USA Today.  Not likely to work well in DE where OC is legal. We were at Panera two days ago; won't be one of my choices now. Another Gun Free Zone!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/09/08/panera-bread-ceo-dont-bring-your-guns-into-our-restaurants/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/09/08/panera-bread-ceo-dont-bring-your-guns-into-our-restaurants/)
Bakery-cafe chain Panera Bread has joined a growing list of retailers including Starbucks SBUX and Target TGT  by announcing that customers should leave their guns at home.

The 1,800-outlet, $4.2 billion (market cap) company issued a brief statement on Monday after CEO Ron Shaich spoke to CNBC about the decision:

Within our company, we strive to create Panera Warmth. This warmth means bakery-cafes where customers and associates feel comfortable and welcome. To this end, we ask that guns not be brought into this environment unless carried by an authorized law enforcement officer. Panera respects the rights of gun owners, but asks our customers to help preserve the environment we are working to create for our guests and associates.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: lynch on September 09, 2014, 01:06:40 PM
Attention thieves and holdup artists:
Please remember that we've told our paying customers to leave their guns home so you will feel the warmth when you rob us!
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Hawkeye on September 09, 2014, 06:11:48 PM
This seems a bit ambiguous to me. “Should” does not mean “must.” They seem to be joining the others who are trying to straddle the fence and not p1ss off either camp.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Lumspond on September 09, 2014, 08:56:07 PM
As in every other case, I consider this to not to apply to me. Panera employees will never know I have a pistol, as it's concealed, permitted, and within the law.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Obleo on September 09, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
It's not a stretch to assume they simply don't want the zombie killers coming in with black rifles.  Concealed is fine with me.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: ThePixelated on September 10, 2014, 01:10:15 AM
"Panera was "respectfully requesting" customers to leave their firearms at home, but will continue to follow state and local firearms laws." USA Today.  Not likely to work well in DE where OC is legal. We were at Panera two days ago; won't be one of my choices now. Another Gun Free Zone!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/09/08/panera-bread-ceo-dont-bring-your-guns-into-our-restaurants/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/09/08/panera-bread-ceo-dont-bring-your-guns-into-our-restaurants/)
Bakery-cafe chain Panera Bread has joined a growing list of retailers including Starbucks SBUX and Target TGT  by announcing that customers should leave their guns at home.

The 1,800-outlet, $4.2 billion (market cap) company issued a brief statement on Monday after CEO Ron Shaich spoke to CNBC about the decision:

Within our company, we strive to create Panera Warmth. This warmth means bakery-cafes where customers and associates feel comfortable and welcome. To this end, we ask that guns not be brought into this environment unless carried by an authorized law enforcement officer. Panera respects the rights of gun owners, but asks our customers to help preserve the environment we are working to create for our guests and associates.



They can "respectfully request" whatever they want, like Chipotle and Target, but concealed carry means concealed. I still CCW in Target, Chipotle, Panera, California Pizza Kitchen, Cheesecake Factory and wherever...

People have been saying, more or less, "my Constitutional rights trump your imaginary rights to feel safe".

Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on September 10, 2014, 04:38:41 PM
To the best of my knowledge there are only 2 Panera's in Delaware(per Panera Locations website). 1 in Newark, and 1 in Rehoboth.  Being from K/C, I have little to no reason to go to Newark or NCC(Liberalville) if I can help it.. I am not a "beach person" so that leaves out Rehoboth. I am 70 years old and never had a Panera bread and just might make it to the end without one. Or at least I'm going to try.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Clarence on September 10, 2014, 04:56:33 PM
Funny thing though. The last open carry that I saw was in the Panera on Kirkwood highway
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Lumspond on September 10, 2014, 09:09:40 PM
Many Panera's. Two on Concord pike, one on Kirkwood highway, one at Christiana, one in Newark, etc
Regardless...
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Condition 1 on September 10, 2014, 11:19:52 PM
Not an issue for CCW.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: groundgrid on September 11, 2014, 03:38:19 AM
It did a lot of good:

PANERA HOT-LEAD BREAD: Shots fired at armed robbery day after “no guns” announcement
http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=13697&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=panera-hot-lead-bread-shots-fired-at-armed-robbery-day-after-no-guns-announcement

A quick Google search shows that they are regular armed robbery targets.
I have resigned to never being able to understand the minds of some business people.

I'd bet that a show your CDW permit-get a discount policy would decrease their robbery rate by a very significant percentage.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Obleo on September 11, 2014, 11:00:03 AM
Quote
I'd bet that a show your CDW permit-get a discount policy would decrease their robbery rate by a very significant percentage.

That is a great idea!
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on September 11, 2014, 01:47:44 PM
Panera's website (a/o 9-10-13) only shows 2 locations. I guess they don't keep it updated very well.
Title: Re: Panera Bread - unless a LEO, leave your guns at home
Post by: Cbmarine on September 11, 2014, 04:04:28 PM
Panera's website (a/o 9-10-13) only shows 2 locations. I guess they don't keep it updated very well.
Snarky comment: Maybe they think that the BGs select their targets using their website?