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Title: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: MarcWinkman on March 14, 2024, 04:36:15 PM
Greetings all, just by way of quick update, a three judge panel of the Third Circuit heard oral arguments in the DSSA's case seeking a preliminary injunction of the Delaware assault weapons and magazine ban.  Unfortunately, the panel included two Biden appointed judges, so, in all probability, the District of Delaware's denial of preliminary injunction will likely be affirmed and the case remanded to the District Court for trial on the merits.  Hopefully in the intervening time, the Supreme Court grants Cert in Bianchi v. Brown out of the Fourth Circuit which seeks a ruling on the MD assault weapons ban.  If the Supreme Court grants Cert in that case, it may be possible for DSSA and every other plaintiff in an assault ban case to interplead, however, I'm not familiary enough with the US Supreme Court's procedural rules on interpleader to say for certain one way or the other.  In any event, stay tuned folks!
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: RetCapt1994 on March 14, 2024, 05:29:55 PM
Thank you Marc for this current update. You Sir, are a very valued member of this forum.  Regards to all at decccw.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Seth on March 14, 2024, 06:57:52 PM
Thanks for the update Marc!
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Just Bill on March 14, 2024, 07:20:31 PM
Can we sue all the legislators for violating the oath of office??
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: MarcWinkman on March 14, 2024, 07:34:14 PM
Can we sue all the legislators for violating the oath of office??

Yes and no.  Because of the separation of powers doctrine, any judicial relief in this type of situation would be limited to Petitioning the Delaware Supreme Court for a Writ of Mandamus directing the General Assembly to repeal the sections of Title 11 that are unconstitutional.  There's a snowball's chance in hell of that happening if there is no opinion from the United States Supreme Court on the matter, however, I, and other nerdy legal 2A folks that I know have high hopes that SCOTUS will grant the Petition for Writ of Certiorari in the Bianchi v. Brown case from the Fourth Circuit, which believe it or not, is more anti-gun than the Third Circuit.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Clarence on March 15, 2024, 04:40:34 PM
No.  They are immune.  We can only vote them out.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Just Bill on March 16, 2024, 07:43:32 PM
No we can't vote them out!  The "gimmees" of NCC won't allow that.  Gimmee more free taxpayer stuff.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Radnor on March 16, 2024, 09:02:04 PM
No we can't vote them out!  The "gimmees" of NCC won't allow that.  Gimmee more free taxpayer stuff.

Sad but TRUE
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: slsharp on March 18, 2024, 01:35:31 PM
It's too bad that you are still allowed to vote if you are getting tax payer or welfare money, seems to me there is a conflict of interest there somehow.  I don't mean that in a negative way, but something just don't add up.  If this is a perversion of democracy, can something be done about it?
-Simon
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: MarcWinkman on March 19, 2024, 02:36:30 PM
It's also a shame that you're allowed to vote for the Delaware Communist Party, I mean democrats after you've died. 
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Clarence on March 19, 2024, 04:02:43 PM
Saw a bumper sticker here in Sussex County:

When I die don t let me vote Democrat
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: slsharp on March 20, 2024, 12:05:46 PM
Wonder what the Democrat next move is?  They have to be sitting around scheming on the next infringement to bring out.
Does anyone have any foresight or inside information, or guess at what that might be?
-Simon
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Oaklandopen on March 20, 2024, 10:48:21 PM
Their next move is whatever another blue state has already done.  At this point I'm surprised they haven't done a carbon tax from your time on the range. 

Maybe they'll take away the castle doctrine.... although any skeezy enough lawyer or AG could bring charges against the homeowner anyway
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: slsharp on March 21, 2024, 12:54:48 PM
little off topic, but ever wonder what it would be like to be a lefty democrat?
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Just Bill on March 21, 2024, 09:59:40 PM
First, you would not be posting on this site.  Next, you would always be angry for no apparent reason.  Next, you would have a firearm and not admit it to your friends but criticizing me for owning one. 
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Oaklandopen on March 21, 2024, 10:03:17 PM
Yes.  I've also wondered what it would be like to be a sea urchin in a tank at petsmart too


But seriously,  when I try to make some sense of their point of view on things it's mentally exhausting
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: slsharp on March 22, 2024, 12:53:13 PM
Funny how we (Conservative or Right thinking) people have free and open discussions, while it's hard to find the same when it comes to leftist socialist anything-goes forums or websites, but when on does pop up, they don't last long because they don't stand up to common sense.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Just Bill on March 22, 2024, 06:54:56 PM
I am on a handyman site where most regular posters are far left so there is no discussion on politics, I am always wrong.  I just stick to fix it discussions.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Oaklandopen on March 22, 2024, 07:12:31 PM
I can't comprehend that.  I figured most handyman or do-it- yourselfers would lean right
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Just Bill on March 23, 2024, 12:20:22 AM
They are not just nasty to me they are hostile and most disregard my comments completely.  It is almost I am invisible in spite of 38 years a remodeling contractor.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: MarcWinkman on April 12, 2024, 01:13:37 PM
Sadly due to my work commitments, I've not been staying as up to date on this case as I'd have liked to.  I missed the window to hear oral arguments in this case, but have it flagged to keep an eye out for an opinion in Westlaw. 

Having said that, one of my colleagues was successful in having a case dismissed where the defendant was charged with possession of a firearm by a person prohibited based upon a 1997 felony conviction for criminal mischief (non-violent felony).  In that case, as in other cases where I have raised constitutionality of gun laws as an issue, the persecutor simply dismissed the case rather than argue the issues so that we can get a judicial ruling.  It's a tactic that the State seems to be using so that they can continue to enforce unconstitutional laws.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Radnor on April 13, 2024, 06:01:01 PM
Thank you for all you have done and shared with us.
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: MarcWinkman on April 15, 2024, 06:40:27 PM
Here's hoping that the Third Circuit Court of Appeals rules favorably for us in the DSSA rifle and magazine ban case.  If they do, I'll have a good time of eviscerating the State in Motions to Dismiss the magazine and rifle cases that have been piled up in the corner of my office waiting for the motions window to open for an en masse filing.  If the Court doesn't go our way, I'll at least have an opportunity to get a few of these issues before the State Supreme Court in Dover for decision. 
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Just Bill on April 24, 2024, 11:20:00 AM
I keep reading about 2nd Amendment victories for us in lower courts, but never how it affects our cases.  Anyone???
Title: Re: Delaware Assault Ban Case Update
Post by: Clarence on April 24, 2024, 12:15:01 PM
Bill.  Try Bearing Arms.   The is from the firearms Policy Coalition

https://bearingarms.com/

This organization is front and center with the legal fights. We are waging. Forget the NRA.