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CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: seniorgeek on November 01, 2014, 12:35:08 PM

Title: CCDW and voting
Post by: seniorgeek on November 01, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
Guys what is the laws concerning CCDW when voting?
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on November 01, 2014, 02:52:40 PM
Cannot carry in a school or government building.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Adrenolin on November 01, 2014, 03:32:34 PM
Actually, CCDW permit holders are permitted to carry in primary and secondary schools and property. Were exempt from the laws, both state and federal, which ban guns from schools.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Clarence on November 01, 2014, 05:04:32 PM
Actually, CCDW permit holders are permitted to carry in primary and secondary schools and property. Were exempt from the laws, both state and federal, which ban guns from schools.
You are correct.  The No Carry locations posted on this forum is wrong.  
Actually state law bans illegal carry on school grounds.  Open carry would be legal under STATE law.

Under section 1458, there has to be an underlying charge and committing one of the listed weapons offenses in a school zone bumps the charge up one degree.  

Having a CCW license issued by the state of Delaware protects you from prosecution under the federal law.

Have never heard of it bring charged without another underlying criminal charge, but open carry without a CCW could bring a federal charge. 
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: kent on November 01, 2014, 07:57:17 PM
Actually, CCDW permit holders are permitted to carry in primary and secondary schools and property. Were exempt from the laws, both state and federal, which ban guns from schools.
Are you saying I can legally walk into CR High School carrying a concealed weapon if I have a CCDW license?
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: oldgraygeek on November 01, 2014, 08:30:43 PM
Actually, CCDW permit holders are permitted to carry in primary and secondary schools and property. Were exempt from the laws, both state and federal, which ban guns from schools.
Are you saying I can legally walk into CR High School carrying a concealed weapon if I have a CCDW license?

Yes, you can. (I would suggest you keep it well concealed, unless you want to be on the TV news...).
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Clarence on November 01, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
Yes. If you will remember that this was one of the planks of the anti gun initiatives that Markell / Biden tried to get after Sandy Hook. They wanted to ban firearms from schools under state law.  They did not get this or the magazine ban or the so called assault weapon ban.  They did get the background check and the lost / stolen firearm bill passed.  

To be charged under current law you must have also been charged with another weapons offense on or near school property.

Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Clarence on November 01, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Actually, CCDW permit holders are permitted to carry in primary and secondary schools and property. Were exempt from the laws, both state and federal, which ban guns from schools.
Are you saying I can legally walk into CR High School carrying a concealed weapon if I have a CCDW license?

Yes, you can. (I would suggest you keep it well concealed, unless you want to be on the TV news...).
Agreed.  This is where I part company with the Open Carry folks.  While I do support it's legality common sense dictates that the firearm should be concealed in public places such as a school, mall, sporting event, etc. 

What we need is Constitutional Carry. 



Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: kent on November 01, 2014, 09:41:34 PM
Actually, CCDW permit holders are permitted to carry in primary and secondary schools and property. Were exempt from the laws, both state and federal, which ban guns from schools.
Are you saying I can legally walk into CR High School carrying a concealed weapon if I have a CCDW license?

Yes, you can. (I would suggest you keep it well concealed, unless you want to be on the TV news...).
Busted! by the Metal Detector.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: seniorgeek on November 01, 2014, 10:06:11 PM
You guys still didn't answer the original question.
The polling place is in the local volunteer fire department building, Not federal or state.

Can I legally CCDW when I vote?
Actually I am an election worker and I will be there processing voters.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on November 01, 2014, 10:43:13 PM
Again you are assuming that all polling places are in firehouses. But, most are in schools.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Lumspond on November 01, 2014, 10:49:07 PM
Yes, you can carry while voting, in a school or firehouse.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Cbmarine on November 01, 2014, 11:00:13 PM
And you will want to carry :)

Mother Jones reports:
7 Big Gun Fights to Watch on Election Day
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/guns-2014-elections-nra-bloomberg-gabby-giffords (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/guns-2014-elections-nra-bloomberg-gabby-giffords)
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: seniorgeek on November 02, 2014, 12:49:05 AM
I had planned to carry so appreciate all the comments.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: kent on November 02, 2014, 07:03:06 PM
You guys still didn't answer the original question.
The polling place is in the local volunteer fire department building, Not federal or state.

Can I legally CCDW when I vote?
Actually I am an election worker and I will be there processing voters.
Well, if the polling is at the VFD I'm sure there is a contract or rent or permission to have the voting in this location. I am assuming (hate to assume) that this location becomes State and/or Federal domain until the polling is closed. I will be wearing my NRA sweater because I understand it will be chilly Tuesday morning.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: Adrenolin on November 02, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
Kent.. I think you're making a huge assumption there with state/federal domain. I highly doubt it. The schools and FDs are simply leasing out space.
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: kent on November 03, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
Kent.. I think you're making a huge assumption there with state/federal domain. I highly doubt it. The schools and FDs are simply leasing out space.
Respectfully, that's what I'm saying. The State and/or Feds could say we are leasing at $$.$$ so we have domain at our legal discretion until the polls close. Same as a tenant renting an apartment. His to do with as long as no State and/or Federal rules are broken. Those that are renting the polling area could say...No NRA hats or No Media Matters Tee Shirts or No I hate Donkeys Head bands. Eric Holder allowed certain individuals using big sticks to control the entrance of polling locations in Pa. during the previous Presidential elections and this is not an assumption. Makes ya think
Title: Re: CCDW and voting
Post by: seniorgeek on November 05, 2014, 11:40:09 PM
My 14.5 hours at the election precinct finished yesterday and I was a interesting experience. There were no issues and on one even new that I was CCDW as it should be.
We had a record turnout for our precinct. Largest vote ever. What did this say to the current political regime. 
To bad Northern DE did not follow the voting of Southern DE.
At least the state reps and senators the are pro 2A remained in charge.