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CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: Oaklandopen on January 13, 2023, 07:30:02 PM

Title: Phili auto show
Post by: Oaklandopen on January 13, 2023, 07:30:02 PM
Idk if anyone here goes to that,  but new this year is metal detectors along with specific firearms rules (only on-duty uniformed officers)

Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Just Bill on January 13, 2023, 10:58:02 PM
I try to avoid the city of brotherly shove .  Permits may land you in jail.
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Oaklandopen on January 14, 2023, 12:42:12 AM
The phili auto show and the zoo are the only times I go there.  Otherwise,  I agree with steering clear of that cesspool. 

Same with Baltimore,  which I only go to the inner harbor for either the aquarium or the science center,  of which I was thoroughly disappointed last time.

Can you explain the jail time though? I don't think there are any separate city ordinance with cc, especially since I have my pa license
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Just Bill on January 14, 2023, 11:12:57 AM
Larry Krasner, he likes to free criminals a jail innocent people.  It's not as bad as NJ, but I have heard stories.
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on January 14, 2023, 04:15:19 PM
In my honest opinion, cities of all kinds are for rats and Democrats.
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Oaklandopen on January 14, 2023, 05:43:26 PM
Trust me,  I don't like cities.  And i don't trust any place where I stand and can't see natural landscape
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Vig on January 31, 2023, 11:47:19 PM
Lol just found this out the hard way. I was coming here to tell you all.

I obviously set the metal detector off so they pulled me to the side to wand me and I was sure I was caught. I carry right hip and have a pocketknife in my left pocket. I was able to use my pocketknife as a red herring to distract them. They wanted to take the pocketknife. The lady saw it has screwdriver attachments on the side of it and said I could keep it, just unclip it so it can’t be seen.

My heart was pounding 😂


 
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Oaklandopen on February 01, 2023, 10:35:31 AM
@@@@.  I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up. My plan was to go this weekend but I don't want to be in that situation, even though I have a Leatherman. 

I wonder what brought this change.  I went the past few years and I think in the rules they never mentioned weapons of any kind
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Vig on February 01, 2023, 02:38:07 PM
@@@@.  I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up. My plan was to go this weekend but I don't want to be in that situation, even though I have a Leatherman. 

I wonder what brought this change.  I went the past few years and I think in the rules they never mentioned weapons of any kind

Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend it. I just didn’t feel like going all the way back to my car because we parked at the casino and took and Uber over. So, I figured worst case scenario I’d be going back to my car to lock it up, best case scenario I could bamboozle them.

I was willing to let them take the pocketknife (it’s just a $30 Kershaw that I’ve beaten to hell). Once she saw the screw driver attachments she was more willing to let it slide even though she said I really wasn’t allowed to have it there. But it served as enough of a red herring to keep them away from my gun. Plus I got to keep my pocketknife. So win-win for me!
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: RLS on February 01, 2023, 09:57:05 PM
One must be careful of carrying a knife in Philadelphia.

Philadelphia Code §10-820. Cutting Weapons in Public Places.

(1) Definition.

Cutting Weapon. Any knife or other cutting instrument which can be used as a weapon that has a cutting edge similar to that of a knife. No tool or instrument commonly or ordinarily used in a trade, profession or calling shall be considered a cutting weapon while actually being used in the active exercise of that trade, profession or calling.

(2) Prohibited Conduct. No person shall use or possess any cutting weapon upon the public streets or upon any public property at any time.

(3) Penalty. The penalty for violation of this section shall be a fine of not less than three hundred (300) dollars and imprisonment of not less than ninety days.
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Oaklandopen on February 01, 2023, 10:52:36 PM
So because my Leatherman has a knife,  while I am not using it for general trade reasons,  would be subject to that law

Makes perfect sense.  Even though philly is ripe with road chunks from potholes I could bludgeon anyone with
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Just Bill on February 01, 2023, 10:53:13 PM
Does that negate my Pa CCDW permit.  A knife is a "weapon", as is a firearm.????
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: del elec on February 02, 2023, 12:04:52 PM
Does that negate my Pa CCDW permit.  A knife is a "weapon", as is a firearm.????

Actually, the PA permit is a LTCF (License To Carry Firearm).
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 02, 2023, 02:27:45 PM
Delaware is a state that "legally permits" concealed carry of most weapons with a DECCW Permit.
In other states it is only a permit to carry a concealed firearm. You have to be sure of which state has what, or you could be in a heap of trouble.

DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Clarence on February 02, 2023, 05:07:56 PM
That is true about Philadelphia.  I guy ( an electrician) had a Leatherman  on his belt on the Philly subway.   He was arrested as the SEPTA police AND the crooked original judge ruled that a Lestherman was NOT a tool of the trade and he was held over for trial

He was eventually cleared and had to forfeit the Leatheman but he spent 3 days in lockup.

Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Vig on February 03, 2023, 06:57:24 PM
Oh wow. I had no idea having a pocketknife was illegal.

I know I shouldn’t be trying to make sense of government/laws, but they’ve deemed that I am capable of carrying a concealed firearm on my person, yet I can’t have a little pocketknife on me?

Wild.
Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Libertarian5 on February 03, 2023, 07:48:59 PM
Technically my PA CC permit states for firearms. My Delaware CC permit says for deadly weapons. In a court of law not sure how that would play out.

Title: Re: Phili auto show
Post by: Clarence on February 04, 2023, 11:37:39 AM
Your Delaware CCW License covers you for knife in Delaware.  I think Delaware considers a folding knife with a blade over 4” to be a concealed weapon or a “ dangerous instrument”.   

Other states are different and of course municipal and counties. 

I remember that although Arizona always has been an open carry state for guns, years ago even open carry of any knife was a felony.