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CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: gun nut on March 12, 2009, 07:02:45 PM

Title: Reason for Application
Post by: gun nut on March 12, 2009, 07:02:45 PM
What would be the best reason to put on the CCW application. I don't know what to say. So ant help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: fdegree on March 12, 2009, 07:52:54 PM
I have heard, from several sources, that stating personal protection and protection of your family would be insufficient reasoning...they may deny your request, unless you can be very specific about your concerns for personal/family protection.  I agree that the reason should be irrelevant as long as all of the other requirements are met.

This is just what I have heard...I don't have any proof of this.

I used carrying large sums of cash, similar to Moosie, and frequenting unsafe places at night and alone due to my job.  All of which are 100% true.  Don't try to lie your way through.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Taurus221 on March 12, 2009, 08:06:54 PM
I and most of the people Iknow said the usual 'protection of person, property or both' thing. I had no problems however I heard of one person being denied. I don't know the whole story behind why he was denied nor do I know this person.
I believe this would be sufficient.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: GunEnvy on March 12, 2009, 08:26:02 PM
I used large amounts of cash and transporting high value items for my job (which is correct) I haven't heard of anybody being denied for using the personal protection reason, but I'm sure somebody has. Mossie, my bet would be that wouldn't be enough by itself but they would probably want to see a order of protection for the person.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 13, 2009, 12:07:32 AM
I used for protection of person and or property and had no problems
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: gun nut on March 13, 2009, 08:35:19 PM
Thank you all. I think I will call the ATF and get the kit to get my FFL also.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 13, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
Its about @@@@ time slacker
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: fdegree on March 14, 2009, 02:04:59 AM
What is involved with getting and maintaining a FFL?

Is it worth it if you don't plan to run a business with it?

Just wondering...I've thought about it, but don't know enough to make an intelligent decision.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: CorBon on March 15, 2009, 02:05:31 PM
The best reason is your true reason. Be that self-defense, work, .... I think it is absurd we have to give a reason. I agree 100% with taking the class, background / criminal check, newspaper, BUT, the reason should not matter as you have the right to bear arms.
One note of caution:  over-exaggerating your work-related need may cause some problems, as the State may (read that as “probably will”) contact your employer to verify that need.  And that’s fine, if that’s the real reason – or you want your employer all-up-in-yo-bizness.  Another downside could be that you get a restricted license – with some type of limitation that would allow you only to carry for work-related activities.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 28, 2009, 11:57:00 PM
Fdegree, To get your FFL the ATF requires you to have a store front in order to get it, however my understanding is that if you are a certified gun smith you do not need a store front. I think the big thing they are looking for is that you turn a profit.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Fire44 on March 30, 2009, 09:49:26 PM
The best reason is your true reason. Be that self-defense, work, .... I think it is absurd we have to give a reason. I agree 100% with taking the class, background / criminal check, newspaper, BUT, the reason should not matter as you have the right to bear arms.
One note of caution:  over-exaggerating your work-related need may cause some problems, as the State may (read that as “probably will”) contact your employer to verify that need.  And that’s fine, if that’s the real reason – or you want your employer all-up-in-yo-bizness.  Another downside could be that you get a restricted license – with some type of limitation that would allow you only to carry for work-related activities.

I was able to get my employer to sign my application.  I think it helps a little if you can get them to sign.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 30, 2009, 11:08:36 PM
I don't for see any problems for most people
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Moosie on March 31, 2009, 01:13:43 AM
My paper work got turned in Friday... I heard 90 days.  I was psyched, until i looked on the calendar..  @@@@ thats a long time LOL.  I might be another year older by the time it gets here!  Oh well.. whatcha goin to do?
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 31, 2009, 05:46:40 PM
Good luck Moosie, Hopefully you will get your permit before your too old to see the sights at the end of your gun. LOL
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Moosie on March 31, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
Well, my birthday is the end of June, and while it would be a nice birthday present, I hope it gets here before then! LOL

I'm going to be :::::::::::gasp:::::::::::  34!
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: fdegree on March 31, 2009, 09:28:14 PM
Fdegree, To get your FFL the ATF requires you to have a store front in order to get it, however my understanding is that if you are a certified gun smith you do not need a store front. I think the big thing they are looking for is that you turn a profit.
Sorry...I haven't checked this thread for a while.

Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: firststatefirearms on May 05, 2009, 06:51:35 PM
Fdegree, To get your FFL the ATF requires you to have a store front in order to get it, however my understanding is that if you are a certified gun smith you do not need a store front. I think the big thing they are looking for is that you turn a profit.
???

This is not true.  You do not need a store front.  As far as turning a profit, standard IRS regulations apply.  The same IRS regs as any other small business.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: Sigarms12 on May 05, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
It used to state on the application that you had to provided a picture of the store front. As far as what they are saying now this is what I found on the ATF's website.
(1) the business to be conducted under the license is not prohibited by State or local law at the place where the licensed premise is located to include compliance with zoning ordinances
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: firststatefirearms on May 06, 2009, 03:30:51 PM
Ther is no Delaware Code or New Castle County Code that prohibits FFL's from working out of their residences.  I have had my FFL for more than six years and I have operated out of two residences since obtaing my FFL.
Title: Re: Reason for Application
Post by: gun nut on May 06, 2009, 08:56:43 PM
This is good to know, Thanks Firststate