Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
General => Out of State Concealed Carry Information => Topic started by: Clarence on July 05, 2022, 03:39:53 PM
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Governor Hogan today ordered the State Police to observe the US. Constitution and drop the “ good and substantial reason” for a “Wear and Carry” license. This has been THE stumbling block in the past
https://governor.maryland.gov/2022/07/05/governor-hogan-directs-maryland-state-police-to-suspend-good-and-substantial-reason-standard-for-wear-and-carry-permits/
The State Police website announcement:
https://licensingportal.mdsp.maryland.gov/MspBridgeClient/#/home
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As soon as I have some funds I am going to start looking to take the class and get this process going. Really looking forward to not having to worry about accidentally going into MD.
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As soon as I have some funds I am going to start looking to take the class and get this process going. Really looking forward to not having to worry about accidentally going into MD.
Right you are Seth. The Maryland classes are expensive. $350 in Salisbury and $175 more if they set up your prints, pictures and paperwork. I wonder if that is because the documentation for the “good and substantial” was so tricky?
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I still haven't seen anything indicating the will issue non-resident permits in Maryland, or accept out of state permits. If so, I'd like to see some documentation on that.
Did find this:
Gov. Larry Hogan has directed the Maryland State Police to suspend the state’s “good and substantial reason” standard for obtaining a permit to carry a concealed handgun in light of last month’s Supreme Court decision.
“It would be unconstitutional to continue enforcing this provision of state law,” Hogan said Tuesday in a statement. “There is no impact on other permitting requirements and protocols.”
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Strum: Again, although Maryland does not recognize any other state permits, there is nothing in Maryland law that says a non resident cannot be issued a permit. Actually non residents have been issued permits in the past for people who were able to articulate “a good and substantial reason”.
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Went on- line to set up the account to start the process for the "Maryland Wear and Carry". At the end of process to start the account, you are supposed to get an email that you are to confirm right away. The email never came. Called the MSP in HQ and a very nice Corporal told me that the system is in the process of being upgraded as they are getting swamped with requests and that it should be good in about one or two days.
Once the account is set up, then you will be putting in the information such as training, fingertprint scan, references etc. Once that has been complete the 90 clock fot approval starts. But first you need to set up the account. https://licensingportal.mdsp.maryland.gov/MspBridgeClient/#/home
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I just sent MSP my NRA certs.. I qualify as an instructor for w&c. I wanted to know because I may venture down the same road and get the w&c.
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It would be great not to have to disarm at the checkpoint
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I just sent MSP my NRA certs.. I qualify as an instructor for w&c. I wanted to know because I may venture down the same road and get the w&c.
Radnor, is there anything you don't do? haha :D
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Well.... I'm not really looking to offer the 16hr course they require. I was looking to get a w&c and was hoping my nra certs would qualify.
For the certs I have, could not tell you how many hrs were spent on training.
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I was looking at the approved trainers and there are some in Delaware.
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veterans are supposed to be exempt from the training courses. yet another strange way states are so different. i had to do training in delaware regardless of my vet status, go figure
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I just sent MSP my NRA certs.. I qualify as an instructor for w&c. I wanted to know because I may venture down the same road and get the w&c.
As an instructor, I am EXEMPT from the 16 hr training!!!
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I just sent MSP my NRA certs.. I qualify as an instructor for w&c. I wanted to know because I may venture down the same road and get the w&c.
As an instructor, I am EXEMPT from the 16 hr training!!!
Congrats!
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Regarding Maryland,
Is any credit given for the requirements already met to obtain a Delaware
CCW. I know with Florida, all I did was send them a copy of my Delaware
documentation. A Print card, and a photo, and they sent me my Florida CCW.
Is Maryland the same, or will it be like starting from scratch, in a State I
don't live in?
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Regarding Maryland,
Is any credit given for the requirements already met to obtain a Delaware
CCW. I know with Florida, all I did was send them a copy of my Delaware
documentation. A Print card, and a photo, and they sent me my Florida CCW.
Is Maryland the same, or will it be like starting from scratch, in a State I
don't live in?
In all likelihood, no. Since they have no reciprocity with anyone else
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Well...... MD for the initial ccdw it's a 16hr class..
I don't know of AND DE instructors who are teaching that long.. PLUS they have to be on the approved list of instructors.
Renewals requires 8 hr class.
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Short answer, I'd say NO
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Hopefully I can help clear up some things because I had a similar question.
I took my 8 hour Delaware CCW class on 3/24 with Marino tactical, they also offer the 16 hour Maryland wear and carry class. Since it’s within the same year, I was able to sign up for the second day to get those 16 hours.
I am scheduled August 15th
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Tell him I said hello. (Todd)
Did their nra certs years ago.
Barry still train with him?
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still working on mine. tomorrow i'll be driving to baltimore for printing since the 6 times i called the number provided, and called bel air directly, i was on hold for no less than 30 minutes each time. it's either they don't want to answer the phone, they are clogged with calls, or there's never anyone in the buildings. im guessing they are swamped with calls
i had to do a separate finger printing for work reasons and troop 2 wasn't scheduling till the 28th, so i did the walk-in in dover and it was less than 15 minutes after i walked in the door. hopefully baltimore is like that but i'm getting there when they open in case it isn't.
after that it'll be passport photos (although in the instructions it looks like i can just take pics with my phone in front of a white wall, frame it properly, and that will suffice. im confused as to how they do this online and say it needs to be a 2 inch photo. i don't know how to make a photo 2 inches big for another user if you can attach it as a jpeg. as long as it's framed square that should be fine
then i have to send a check and we'll see what happens
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just submitted my maryland app. did a quick trip to the baltimore fingerprinting site, about 60 miles one-way for me, and i was the 4th in line. wasn't too bad, i'd say in and out in about 30 minutes after it opened.
the fields you have to fill in for fingerprinting proof is a little confusing. i don't know if i did it correctly. but i definitely paid for the full state and fbi check.
i'd say the full online app process makes some things easier compared to delaware's, but they are overall different nonetheless.
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Does anybody have a handle on what it will cost for the MD W&C non-resident permit for someone with a DE permit, and has a DD214 proving they are a military veteran?
I am considering applying but want to know how much I will have to lay out before I get to deep into the process?
Where can I apply in person?
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$75 for the license. $60 for fingerprints. But you might find a MD police station to do the prints cheaper.
I just completed the training and it was pretty expensive. 16 hours.
You are good to go with your DD 214
Having a Delaware carry license will do nothing for you in Maryland.
You will need 3 references but they can live anywhere and don’t need to sign a paper.
All applications are strictly “on line”. There is no option to apply “in person”. Actually easier than all of the papers involved with Delaware. The picture can be a selfie on your smart phone. Upload and crop it.
Here is a link to the licensing portal: https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Portal.aspx
You can start your application with your email as your username and a password that YOU set up. As you complete various section of the application you will save and then come back to keep working until you are done.
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Does anybody have a handle on what it will cost for the MD W&C non-resident permit for someone with a DE permit, and has a DD214 proving they are a military veteran?
I am considering applying but want to know how much I will have to lay out before I get to deep into the process?
Where can I apply in person?
$75 for the application, $51.xx for the fingerprinting. You can try to make an appointment at any provided MVA but of the two dozen times I tried I never got ahold of anyone for about 30 minutes each call. I ended up doing the walk-in in Baltimore and it wasn't that bad. Opened nearly on time and I was in and out within 30 minutes, probably the 8th person in line on a Tuesday I believe
On a side note it's important that you provide the proper number on the fingerprinting application as to why you are doing it, since there are several.
"Wear and Carry: Below is the information that you should provide to the LiveScan technician for fingerprinting:
Agency Authorization Number: 9400082484
Agency ORI Number: MDMSP6000
Reason Fingerprinted: MD Public Safety Article, Section 5-305
You may print this page to take with you."
That can be found on their website but you have to either write it on their paperwork when you get to the fingerprinting site or provide them a copy of the webpage that says what I quoted
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I live in Sussex County. Can anyone recommend someone to take the class from?
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Call Marino. Tell him I said hi.
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I live in Sussex County. Can anyone recommend someone to take the class from?
I did Atlantic Tactical in Salisbury.