Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
General => New Member Introduction => Topic started by: mominde on February 10, 2012, 12:50:08 AM
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Hello, I am getting ready to sumbit my ccw application. I've learned alot from many of the posts on here. Thank you all for your open candid posts! Any advice would be appreciated! =)
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Welcome to the club Mominde.
Good luck with your application.
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Welcome, to the club I'm a newbie also . I have been waiting since early Jan. and not looking for my permit until sometime in March or April. I'm sharping up my skills by going to the range and practicing my dry firing. And not sitting around doing nothing but sharping up until my permit come.
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Welcome aboard to both newbies.
May you have the gun you need, and then never need it.
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What does report to moderator mean and is that done. ( help )
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I believe that is used in the case a post is extremely offensive or needs immediate attention of the moderators for the site. Brings that particular post and member to the mods attention so action can be taken such as removing the post or a message to the member. You are not in trouble or need to check in. ;D
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Thanks I'm just trying to figure out how all this works.
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Welcome aboard to both newbies.
May you have the gun you need, and then never need it.
What OGG said and practice, practice, practice.
Be safe!
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Mominde - Welcome, as a newbie myself, I can completely agree, there is much to learn and this is the right place to get a great education on all things concealed carry. I've found the folks here very willing to help get you through the hoops to your permit and help you weed through the pros and cons of getting good equipment for your carry. May your wait for the permit be short!
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Hello, I am getting ready to sumbit my ccw application. I've learned alot from many of the posts on here. Thank you all for your open candid posts! Any advice would be appreciated! =)
The best advice I can give is to do your research when it comes to taking the class. There are plenty of places out there unfortunately that will stand you 5 yards from a paper target and tell you to shoot 100 rounds at it, and that's it (other than the classroom portion which is usually about the same level). On the other hand, there are others out there who teach the course that take it very seriously and give you lots of drills and information that can really make a difference if you find yourself in a situation where you need to rely on your weapon. Interestingly, in my neck of the woods (down south) I found that one of the cheapest options I had was actually one of the best!
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@rusirius, would you have suggestions of any in the kent county area? I have looked at a few, but nothing sticking out yet. I wanted to gather all the paperwork before I signed up for the class. Just waiting on one more ref. Thanks
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@mominde........I'm in northern Kent and I used TRINtac in Middletown. I selected them because their classes were two consecutive days and held on weekends. I like to get er done and not go thru several weeks of night classes. I can't say that they are any better/worse than the others but I thought they were more than adequate.
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@rusirius, would you have suggestions of any in the kent county area? I have looked at a few, but nothing sticking out yet. I wanted to gather all the paperwork before I signed up for the class. Just waiting on one more ref. Thanks
I wish I could, but unfortunately I don't know anything about the guys up north. The classroom portion is pretty much going to be the same, it's the range time you really want to make sure you maximize... Maybe call around and just ask what types of things you'll be doing during the range portion... About the best I can do for you is describe a little bit about my own class that I was EXTREMELY pleased with...
The class consisted of a single day... It started first thing in the morning and was about 4 or 4 1/2 hours of classroom time. At the conclusion of the class was a written test then a short break for lunch. After was followed by another 4 or 5 hours of range time. The range time included a LOT of hands on instruction, tips, hints, etc... It started off with the basics of drawing from concealment focusing on the best balance of speed vs. accuracy. Then it moved on to more complex scenarios. Multiple targets, magazine changes, cover and concealment, misfire drills (i.e. tap-rack-bang, etc), clearing jams, movement, etc... In other words, one drill might start with standing 1 ft away from the target, drawing from the holster and rotating up (while keeping the weapon at your side for best retention ability) and firing at the target followed by moving back (putting distance between you and target) while taking follow up shots, etc. Or perhaps drawing from concealment, firing two shots into target A, ducking behind cover doing a magazine change followed by two shots into target B. A lot of target transitioning drills, etc...
On the other hand, a friend of mine who took his course at a different place was LITERALLY stood in front of a single target and told to shoot 100 rounds into it. That was it... Nothing else at all.
So like I said, just give the places you are considering a call and ask a lot of questions about the range portion... Ask how much they will work with you individually, what types of drills they'll be having you do, etc... Just try to get a sense of what you'll come away from the course with...
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rusirius it sounded like you took your training with Marino in Lincoln.
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rusirius it sounded like you took your training with Marino in Lincoln.
Sure did! ;)
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The problem we have up north in NCC as for the range portion of the course is the ranges themselves. We have no "real" outdoor range and of the two or three public places to shoot, none can be rented solely for a class's use. There is no real estate up here for a trainer to have a class with extensive live fire drills or holster draw drills. Everyone up here is at the mercy of the three local public ranges (Ommelanden, Target Masters or Elk neck) and more importantly to their safety regulations or rules. One major rule they all have is no holstered weapons. The only place you could do some decent gun training up here would be private property (yeah right!) or a private club like DE State Pistol Club but no one I know runs a course from that facility. You have a better chance of seeing Jesus than shooting on private property north of the canal without someone calling the authorities on you! Especially handgun. That is unless you are part of the possible 1% that may have an in somewhere or know someone that can get away with shooting on their property. And if you feel you are that privileged, I still say shoot at you own risk.
I took my class with First State Firearms Training and we did our shooting at Ommelanden. While it was very basic, we did do a few things that was new to me or things I never really thought to practice. I did quite a bit of point shooting and few shots with instinctive shooting (not much instinctive because the range officers get nervous when they see shooting not done from a traditional normal stance). I also did a bit of one handed shooting with each of my hands. I've been shooting most of my life and never really thought to practice left handed shooting. As for holstered stuff, I've been just practicing at home with an unloaded weapon in front of a mirror or with my wife watching. Learning proper grip/hand orientation and learning to "squeeze" the trigger is other things you can do without firing a shot. Just get snap caps if you are gonna dry fire the weapon. If you are slightly proficient with a firearm, you can do a whole lot on your own. I do want to do an advanced course but looks like I'm going to have drive a bit to do that. I felt that the course I took was very in depth and very well explained though when it came to the classroom portion. The course is really just fundamentals but like everyone always says, practice makes perfect. My advice is take a course and get as much as you can out of it but never stop practicing. Practice, practice, practice......
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Here too. How nice to draw and draw and reload and move and cover and... Paper punching gets very boring after 50.
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i have researched trin tac its located in middle town they seem to be really into training for the best. they use the nra, dsp, and military officers. i really think it would be one of the more andvanced training course. it is a ride for those in the sussex county area but pretty sure well worth it. they are charging 295 for the course 2, 8 hours classes sat and sun. i am really excited can hardly wait. if you havent yet descided i would look them up and do some research. well good luck to you hope you find the course you feel more comfortable with
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Well....2 months later but I have finally finished the process and am now just waiting! There were a few delays since my husband and I did this all together and scheduling was a hassle. But turned it all in on 4/20. We shall see how long Kent County takes!
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Happy Independence Day to me! My permit came in the mail on July 3rd. I turned everything in on 4/20 and found it in the mail Tuesday. Curious though, I turned my husband's paper work in the same day and no news on his...
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@mominde........I'm in northern Kent and I used TRINtac in Middletown. ....
Based on what a lady I know said about them, I'm not impressed. She took one of the "advanced"
classes - OK.... She said they had her lay flat on her back, legs straight up in the air spread apart and
shooting between them! She was telling another TC and I this, and we just looked at each other in
amazement. He asked, "You were flat on your back like you were getting ______". She said, YES.
Lady went on to say, "I checked them out and the BIO said they were NRA Instructors". I'm sure
they could be. I am a NRA TC (I train instructors) and I can tell you NOWHERE in my syllabuses
can I find that tactic.
Once you commit to having a firearm as a part of your personal defense, I'd recommend thinking
about taking Personal Protection Inside the Home (PPITH) and Personal Protection Outside the Home (PPOTH).
In PPOTH there is a lot of holster work as well as using barricades.
The above is nothing more than my opinion.
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And mominde, CONGRATS on the CCDW!
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... There is no real estate up here for a trainer to have a class with extensive live fire drills or holster draw drills. ... DE State Pistol Club but no one I know runs a course from that facility.
At time NRA classes are offered at DSPC. Basic Pistol several times a year. I think once or twice a year PPITH and PPOTH.
If you want more info on content: http://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseCatalog.aspx (http://www.nrainstructors.org/CourseCatalog.aspx)
If you want to find a course: http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx (http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx)
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As for holstered stuff, I've been just practicing at home with an unloaded weapon in front of a mirror or with my wife watching. Learning proper grip/hand orientation and learning to "squeeze" the trigger is other things you can do without firing a shot. Just get snap caps if you are gonna dry fire the weapon. If you are slightly proficient with a firearm, you can do a whole lot on your own.
This is going to sound odd but..... After your dry fire exercises, put your gun down and get away form it for about 30 minutes BEFORE reloading. WHY?!? You've just spent 30 minutes or so practicing. Rack, click. Rack, click. Rack, click. You're developing muscle memory. Dont want to reload and have a rack, BANG!