Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: Adrenolin on February 15, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
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So my wife has a family member who lives in NJ and is going to take a Utah CCW course. This person do NOT have a NJ CCW permit of course but does have a handgun and they expect to be able to travel through NJ, DE, PA and MD mostly and believe the Utah permit will allow them to. This was my 3rd party information passed to me so I'm sure some things got crossed here and there.
So I'll ask here What does having a Utah CCW permit allow for a NJ resident?
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Utah is reciprocal for DE but not PA, or MD. Travel through any of the desired states will have to be in compliance with Federal transportation guidelines, i.e. gun unloaded and secured in car away from passenger compartment and separate from ammunition. Such is the consequence of being a subject of the people's soviet socialist republic of New Jersey.
Also, depending on whether Utah non-resident is like PA non-resident where it requires home state CCW, it may be an additional snag.
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Read today on the AG Denn web page that starting in September some time, DE will no longer accept non-resident permits from any state.
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If the person is a NJ resident and does not have a NJ ccw. He or she will not be legal to carry a concealed weapon in NJ.
Check out the Interactive CCW map (https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/travel/)
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NormH3... I read the same thing today on the DE AG site. Sounds like as a NJ resident with a Utah permit you will not be able to carry in De. I transplanted from NJ last year but I carried with my Utah permit when I visited De that apparently is changing...
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NormH3.. you wouldn't have that link available would you? I've read about this a few times now and the included links take me HERE (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml) with no mention of this news.
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NormH3.. you wouldn't have that link available would you? I've read about this a few times now and the included links take me HERE (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml) with no mention of this news.
Interesting. I was looking at this page several hours ago and there was a little blurb about it. Seems it's gone now. I also saw it mentioned on a FB page.
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This was the quote from the web site when it was there....
"As of September 23, 2017 Delaware will no longer honor non-resident Concealed Carry Permits issued by any jurisdiction."
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So my wife has a family member who lives in NJ and is going to take a Utah CCW course. This person do NOT have a NJ CCW permit of course but does have a handgun and they expect to be able to travel through NJ, DE, PA and MD mostly and believe the Utah permit will allow them to. This was my 3rd party information passed to me so I'm sure some things got crossed here and there.
So I'll ask here What does having a Utah CCW permit allow for a NJ resident?
Nothing. A New Jersey resident may not even leave their home with a handgun except under certain circumstances. Traveling to another state is not one of them. Even if they are legal in the state they are going to.
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Utah Non-Resident CCW requires a homestate CCW as a prerequisite, or they will not issue (or renew).
Utah grandfathered existing Non-Res CCWs at the time, allowing the holder to acquire a homestate CCW by the next Utah renewal date.
Failing that, there would be no renewal. I had my Utah CCW before I got DE, then went through DE process.
This change went into effect 2013, IIRC. If you do a search, there should be mention of this.
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Utah Non-Resident CCW requires a homestate CCW as a prerequisite, or they will not issue (or renew).
Utah grandfathered existing Non-Res CCWs at the time, allowing the holder to acquire a homestate CCW by the next Utah renewal date.
Failing that, there would be no renewal. I had my Utah CCW before I got DE, then went through DE process.
This change went into effect 2013, IIRC. If you do a search, there should be mention of this.
I don't believe that's correct. If you have a CCW in your home state then Utah does require a copy of that however if you do not it's not required and one can still apply for an out of state Utah permit.
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Utah Non-Resident CCW requires a homestate CCW as a prerequisite, or they will not issue (or renew).
Utah grandfathered existing Non-Res CCWs at the time, allowing the holder to acquire a homestate CCW by the next Utah renewal date.
Failing that, there would be no renewal. I had my Utah CCW before I got DE, then went through DE process.
This change went into effect 2013, IIRC. If you do a search, there should be mention of this.
Actually Utah only requires a home state license if the state of residence has a reciprocal license agreement with Utah. In the case of New Jersey,which has no agreements with any state, it would not be a requirement. PA and Delaware would be.
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Utah Non-Resident CCW requires a homestate CCW as a prerequisite, or they will not issue (or renew).
Utah grandfathered existing Non-Res CCWs at the time, allowing the holder to acquire a homestate CCW by the next Utah renewal date.
Failing that, there would be no renewal. I had my Utah CCW before I got DE, then went through DE process.
This change went into effect 2013, IIRC. If you do a search, there should be mention of this.
Actually Utah only requires a home state license if the state of residence has a reciprocal license agreement with Utah. In the case of New Jersey,which has no agreements with any state, it would not be a requirement. PA and Delaware would be.
Correct...Marylanders can get a Utah non-resident without holding a Maryland resident permit.
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By that reasoning, I guess that Constitutional Carry states would also find themselves in the same boat - that Utah would not require
a home state CCW to issue a Utah non-Resident permit? One learns something new every day. Thanks for the lesson.
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By that reasoning, I guess that Constitutional Carry states would also find themselves in the same boat - that Utah would not require
a home state CCW to issue a Utah non-Resident permit? One learns something new every day. Thanks for the lesson.
All constitutional carry states except Vermont still issue permits for reciprocity purposes. Pretty sure they all have reciprocity with Utah.