Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: demark04 on June 18, 2013, 06:49:50 PM
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Seen a guy 2 weekends ago in a bar, wearing a t shirt saying something about his 2nd amendment rights (can't remember exact phrase). His shirt was also riding up so you could clearly see he was CC at 3 o'clock with half his OWB holster sticking out of the bottom of his shirt and the pistol grip clearly "Printing". Just my Opinion, but why would you CC and then advertise like that? The advantage to CC'ing is the element of surprise, is it not? BTW, I did notice he was only drinking soda, Kudos for that!!!
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I wear a t-shirt that says on the back of it, "Shove your gun control up your ... and then there's a picture of the democratic donkey". I wear it while I'm cc'ing. I prefer not to print or let anyone know that i'm carrying.
I dont see anything wrong with wearing pro-2nd amendment shirts. Many people wear them and don't carry. As for the jerk letting his gun show.. well, that's just not my thing. Sounds like he was a show off.
Moosie
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I think the guy was just trying to be intimidating or acting like a tough guy. He wanted to be noticed. Some people are just that way. Not the smartest tool in the pouch.
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I wear mine in a Safepacker at 4:00. People just seem to assume it's some kind of [old] man-purse. I've only had two people look at it and immediately make it as a gun... one of them was pretty startled, and clearly thought about shooting me, but that's not bad for seven years.
No gun-related logos on my clothes, or car, or anywhere.
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I see people print all the time. Most people don't even register that it is a gun.
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I try to be very careful about what I wear so as not to reveal anything. Occasionally I wear a fanny pack because what I am wearing will not cover.
To each their own but this is called "concealed carry".
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When's the last time you saw a guy wearing a Harley shirt and wasn't on a Harley or you know he doesn't even own one? Same thing. Just because you see someone wearing a pro-2A shirt, doesn't mean the person has a concealed carry. Most of the general public is under the impression that you have to have high level connections to get a concealed carry permit. These are usually the folks who don't own a gun or own one that they've never fired that's was their great grand daddy's that they keep in the back of the hall closet.
To each their own. I'll continue to wear my pro-2A shirt and carry concealed. It's not like I wear it everyday.
Moosie
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"Clearly thought about shooting me" is very startling. What was that about OldGrayGeek?
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"Clearly thought about shooting me" is very startling. What was that about OldGrayGeek?
There was a guy in the Acme, looked like some kind of Fed or detective, carrying a Sig Sauer IWB but not concealed in a dress shirt & tie and slacks. I went over to pick up something off the shelf right next to him. He looked at me, immediately focused on the Safepacker, and backed away a few steps with a startled expression on his face.
I stood very still, looked him in the eyes, and said calmly, "Yes, that is what you think it is. I have a permit for it, and you are welcome to see it." He calmed down. I complimented him on his powers of observation, pointing out that he was only the second person to correctly identify the pouch in six years. He mumbled some sort of apology and left.
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I have no problem with someone wearing a 2A shirt, I was just kind of shocked that we would basically let it all hang out, so to speak. I was carrying all weekend in the same bar (no alcohol for me) and nobody noticed. Or at least if someone did, nobody said anything. I run a business where I had a lot of cash on me that weekend and had to be in a bar. Had quite a few people give me a hug, brush up against it and not even give a weird look, probably thought was a cell phone or something.
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I would rather see someone open carry then carry in the manner of the guy you described. He didn't happen to be displaying a CCW badge did he?
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I'm with ya, Denmark04. Letting it all hang out doesn't seem to make any sense to me either. I'm not a fan of open carry, but I have my own reasons for that.
Ok, so inquiring minds want to know... you carry large amounts of cash, no alcohol, but you spent all weekend in a bar. You're the guy who sits inside the ATM and spits our money out, aren't you?! LOL
Moosie
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Maybe he's a bartender?
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@ Moosie - LOL. I wish....... I own a pool league franchise. The last 2 weekends we had our State Championship tournaments. We paid out in cash. There may even be some players in the league that are members here, who knows.
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I dont really worry about printing as much, but I am still getting used to concealling. its great when I dont, but I still believe in deterring crime is possible.
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:) Hey.. it was worth a shot! Sounds like fun. I can't shoot pool worth a darn unless I'm 2 sheets to the wind.
Moosie
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:) Hey.. it was worth a shot! Sounds like fun. I can't shoot pool worth a darn unless I'm 2 sheets to the wind.
Moosie
Only 2? @Moosie, are you a sailor? Apparently, "to the wind" is incorrect; see explanation below.
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Our colleagues at CANOE, the Committee to Ascribe a Nautical Origin to Everything, have been hard at work and, to their great pleasure, they can add this phrase to their list. 'Three sheets to the wind' is indeed a seafaring expression.
To understand this phrase we need to enter the arcane world of nautical terminology. Sailors' language is, unsurprisingly, all at sea and many supposed derivations have to go by the board. Don't be taken aback to hear that sheets aren't sails, as landlubbers might expect, but ropes (or occasionally, chains). These are fixed to the lower corners of sails, to hold them in place. If three sheets are loose and blowing about in the wind then the sails will flap and the boat will lurch about like a drunken sailor.
The phrase is these days more often given as 'three sheets to the wind', rather than the original 'three sheets in the wind'. The earliest printed citation that I can find is in Pierce Egan's Real Life in London, 1821:
"Old Wax and Bristles is about three sheets in the wind."
Sailors at that time had a sliding scale of drunkenness; three sheets was the falling over stage; tipsy was just 'one sheet in the wind', or 'a sheet in the wind's eye'.
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I think Moosie was trying to tell us that she can play pool at 'one sheet less to the wind,' she didn't have to get to three sheets. hehehehe
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LMAO @ Moosie and Kathy1!! Actually Moosie, you would not believe how much a hot item/player is that do not know how to shoot!! No, I am not trying a sales pitch, but I would bet I could find you a team within 1 day!!!! Most people say the same thing, except its 3 sheets. Lmao.
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LMAO! I was a sailor... well... actually an Airmen then a Petty Officer... but we'll leave that for another discussion. LOL
Demark.. I can shoot. I just can't be sober if you expect me to do any good! I think that I loosen up with some umm. adult beverages, and then i don't over think it. What? ME??? Over think something???? WHAT??? :) Yeah.. who'da thought!
And yes... if I get 3 sheets to the wind... well, I'm not shooting anything - except myself in the foot the next morning when I feel like crap! :)
;D Glad I could provide some entertainment for you folks hehehee
Moosie
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LMAO! I was a sailor... well... actually an Airmen then a Petty Officer... but we'll leave that for another discussion. LOL
Demark.. I can shoot. I just can't be sober if you expect me to do any good! I think that I loosen up with some umm. adult beverages, and then i don't over think it. What? ME??? Over think something???? WHAT??? :) Yeah.. who'da thought!
And yes... if I get 3 sheets to the wind... well, I'm not shooting anything - except myself in the foot the next morning when I feel like crap! :)
;D Glad I could provide some entertainment for you folks hehehee
Moosie
SO that means you were in the air force and navy? Is that common for people to be in two branches?
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No Sir. 100% Navy. There are three classes of enlisted folk in the Navy. Seaman, Airman, & Fireman. I fell into the Airman side of things focusing on weapons and all things that go boom surrounding aircraft. And yes.. it is quite common these days for folks to change services after they've served their first enlistment. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Moosie
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LMAO! I was a sailor... well... actually an Airmen then a Petty Officer... but we'll leave that for another discussion. LOL
Demark.. I can shoot. I just can't be sober if you expect me to do any good! I think that I loosen up with some umm. adult beverages, and then i don't over think it. What? ME??? Over think something???? WHAT??? :) Yeah.. who'da thought!
And yes... if I get 3 sheets to the wind... well, I'm not shooting anything - except myself in the foot the next morning when I feel like crap! :)
;D Glad I could provide some entertainment for you folks hehehee
Moosie
SO that means you were in the air force and navy? Is that common for people to be in two branches?
I have a friend who served 6 years in the Air Force and decided it wasn't challenging enough. After his enlisted 6 years he left and signed on to the army special forces. He's been there for 5 years now and loves it.
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Glad to see you picked a good branch Moosie I am a tailhooker & was an AX which is no more. Been in to 3 campaigns & 2 tours in V. When I was in women were strictly clerical or pilots (ferrying mostly).
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Thanks for your service to our nation all.
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Ahhh, Knotacare. Anti-Sub Tech? Yes, they absorbed several of ratings in early 90's. Did they morph it into another rate? My father was a radio man in the Army and served several tours in V. He told his mother he worked in the post office to keep her from worrying lol. The men in my squadron had not worked with a female yet until I came in. Can I tell you how frustrating that was? In some ways it was nice, then, politics came into the picture and everything had to be so very politically correct which made my decision to get out.
Newlife, I'm not surprised at the cross over of your friend. But glad he's enjoying things now. :)
Thank you to all my fellow veterans for your service.
Moosie
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Avaition Anti Submarine Tech & I got out in 1970 so it was still a great rating . When we were in Vietnam we patrolled N & S Vietnam looking for gun runners. We went up rivers too. We used to gun spot for troops on the ground too. I'm sure they were happy to have the Navy around with those big guns. I operated some pretty technical equipment back then it was all top secret & you had to promise not to mention anything for 10 yrs after getting out.
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guess we should get back to topic BUT while we are diverting my son went into Navy(enlisted e-5) left for a few years went into CG started e-2 got out Lt Commander when he retired... I spent a few years from laying keel to firstyear or so of voyages as a a deck chief on Delawares tall ship..wa also airborne in service.
now I do evertything I can to keep everything well hidden and no logo shirts to boot..
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;D You got out of the Navy before I was born. hehehee Sounds like good times!! I think we've all had the "you were never here" or "this doesn't exist" moments.
Anjdrifter, very cool! Glad your son made out with some gold bars before he retired. Sounds like you got to have fun yourself!
Now? Well.. I punch people for a living when I'm not overseas.
As for getting back on track... Anjdrifter, I respect that.
Moosie