Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: leland_7 on December 27, 2013, 03:01:49 PM
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I'm think about a FL non-res along with a PA non-res for coverage.
First Am I going about it right? And if so, is this still the closest option since we can no longer mail? (I'm in the Pike Creek area)
http://www.co.delaware.pa.us/sheriff/weapons.html
Thanks, folks!
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It's been my experience and the experience of many others here that Lancaster is the quickest and easiest route to take. In and out in half an hour or less. Lots of good places to eat there also.
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Berks, Bucks, or Lancaster Co.
In and out in 20-30 minutes and $20.00.
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Good deal. Thanks for the posts. Perhaps the link could be updated for the PA sticky?
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My vote is for Lancaster County. Now here's the plan. Tell your wife you are taking her to the Lancaster outlets shopping. Drive directly to Duke St. in Lancaster. Go to the Court House. Empty your pockets into the little basket going through security. Make a right and go down the hall and turn left into the Sheriffs Office. Tell one of the smiling friendly ladies You would like to apply for a Pa Non- Resident CC permit. Tell them you are from Delaware and watch the smile on their face. (One suggestion: I filled out the application on-line and waited to sign it in their presence) That made them really happy because they didn't have to explain it again.
Show them your De. Drivers permit, and your DECCW, along with $20.00. She will take all and go make a phone call after asking you to be seated. Next she will call you back to the desk and tell you to go see the lady taking pictures. She will ask you to read and verify the info on the permit , take your picture and seal it in a laminated cover, hand it to you and thank you . 20 minutes, your out of there Happy, Happy, Happy.
Now if you have time, take your wife to the outlets, after all, that is why you went to Lancaster isn't it?
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It's very important to verify the information while you're there. I checked mine out when we stopped at Wesley's on the way home and noticed it said Middletown, PA, Not Middletown, DE. >:(
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Also it might be wise to have a few references with phone numbers on hand (maybe addresses too). They asked me and I gave them a few people who I used for my DE CCDW
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It also helps them if you make copies of your DE. drivers license and DE. ccdw permit (both sides each) preferably on same sheet of paper. Makes them happy. They will also give you a copy of the Pa. ccdw reciprocity list with other states. You may have to ask for it.
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With Delaware and PA. permits you will be covered for about 29 states. And NO Maryland is not covered, bast---ds
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If you want a Florida application packet, I have 150 of them sitting here. Let me know.
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Most all states the issue CCW for non-residents have the online. I got my PA. application there and had it all filled out when I got there. If you are going in person, wait and sign it in front of them. If sending by mail, of course you have to sign it .
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Fellas,
Myself and couple other guys made the trek to Lancaster this past weekend. In and out in no time. Surprisingly great service for a government entity. They seemed genuinely happy to see us and were even cracking jokes. This was a stark contrast from Northern DE's judgmental and condescending service.
Needless to say, thank you all for taking the time to post and share your experience.
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Like Leland_7 said, Lancaster county Sheriff's Office is the place to go. Friendly people, quick service. Only bad thing is it's hard to find free parking. I'm cheap, so I went about 4 blocks south of the Courthouse building and turned on a street that had a few free spots and walked back to the Courthouse.
The people there think it's funny that it is so hard and expensive to get a DECCW.
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For what it's worth, we pulled into a nice parking deck that was $2 for the first hour. I believe it was connected to a place called Federal Brew? From there it's a short walk (5 min max) to the sheriff's office. $2 ain't bad.
Just remember to pay for your ticket on the ground level prior to returning.
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My wife and I just took the trip to Lancaster today. We found a meter on the very next cress street past the court house for $1.
Luckily my wife had some cash with her...the $20 fee to the Sherriff's office is cash or money order only!
Very nice people, in and out in less than 20 minutes with permit in hand. In the 20 minutes we saw 10 others there for the same reason.
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My wife and I just took the trip to Lancaster today. We found a meter on the very next cress street past the court house for $1.
Luckily my wife had some cash with her...the $20 fee to the Sherriff's office is cash or money order only!
Very nice people, in and out in less than 20 minutes with permit in hand. In the 20 minutes we saw 10 others there for the same reason.
Great. My wife and I had same experience. We had our LTCF for Pennsylvania in 15 minutes.
When I went in July, sheriff took my paperwork, money and Delaware permit and asked " ok Mr. "Clarence" if you are up here, who is back defending Delaware?"
When wife went a month later, he joked with her about all the muggers who will get a big surprise with all the women who are getting permits.
Great folks up there.
Did you happen to see the Second Amendment pledge letter on the counter where you get your picture taken?
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I don't remember the last time I was in PA... Wait, Carlisle, Pa 2 years ago for the car show. Before that I bet it was 5+ years before. It's nice to know its easy to get though.
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My friend got his PA permit a few days ago up at the Lancaster Court house and I just got mine today up there. Easy peasy! $20 and a few minutes of a wait to get the photo & permit and zoom! 33 minutes total time from when I put money in the meter to getting back to my car.
Easy parking on the street (meters) or there's a parking garage 2 blocks down Duke St. (Court house at 50 N. Duke St.).
And there's Central Market there too (I heard it was a place to go to check out, but I didn't go).
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I'm going up next week to Lancaster.
Just curious if you folks carried into PA when you went to get your permit?
Did you just keep it locked up in your vehicle until you left or did you leave the firearm at home in DE.
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I left mine locked up at home. Since you don't actually have a Pa permit yet, you would be breaking the law. You could have an accident on the way there. Be patient. Carrying a gun locked (concealed) in your car in Pa. is against the law until you have a concealed carry permit. Again, be patient and good luck.
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... Since you don't actually have a Pa permit yet, you would be breaking the law. You could have an accident on the way there. Be patient. ...
Really?!?
18 Pa.C.S. § 6106: Firearms not to be carried without a license
http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/18/II/G/61/A/6106/firearms-not-to-be-carried-without-a-license/ (http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/18/II/G/61/A/6106/firearms-not-to-be-carried-without-a-license/)
Paragraph b(11)
PA is also an open carry state w/o LTCF except for cities of the 1st class.
Also I believe they must provide a secure storage for your firearm (unlike DE - well the lockers in the parking garage [JOKE])
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I'm going up next week to Lancaster.
Just curious if you folks carried into PA when you went to get your permit?
Did you just keep it locked up in your vehicle until you left or did you leave the firearm at home in DE.
Assuming you have a carry permit from "any state" you may carry in a vehicle in PA. This is not tied to reciprocity. See exception 11 below.
You may NOT carry on your person concealed outside of a vehicle until you have the PA License to Carry a Firearm.
18 Pa.C.S. § 6106: Firearms not to be carried without a license
(a) Offense defined.--
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a [FN1] valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(b) Exceptions.--The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:
(1) Constables, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen of this Commonwealth or its political subdivisions, or other law-enforcement officers.
(2) Members of the army, navy, marine corps, air force or coast guard of the United States or of the National Guard or organized reserves when on duty.
(3) The regularly enrolled members of any organization duly organized to purchase or receive such firearms from the United States or from this Commonwealth.
(4) Any persons engaged in target shooting with a firearm, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the firearm is not loaded.
(5) Officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry a concealed firearm.
(6) Agents, messengers and other employees of common carriers, banks, or business firms, whose duties require them to protect moneys, valuables and other property in the discharge of such duties.
(7) Any person engaged in the business of manufacturing, repairing, or dealing in firearms, or the agent or representative of any such person, having in his possession, using or carrying a firearm in the usual or ordinary course of such business.
(8) Any person while carrying a firearm which is not loaded and is in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to his home or place of business, or to a place of repair, sale or appraisal or back to his home or place of business, or in moving from one place of abode or business to another or from his home to a vacation or recreational home or dwelling or back, or to recover stolen property under section 6111.1(b)(4) (relating to Pennsylvania State Police), or to a place of instruction intended to teach the safe handling, use or maintenance of firearms or back or to a location to which the person has been directed to relinquish firearms under 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a licensed dealer's place of business for relinquishment pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S § 6108.2 (relating to relinquishment for consignment sale, lawful transfer or safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm or to a location for safekeeping pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108.3 (relating to relinquishment to third party for safekeeping) or back upon return of the relinquished firearm.
(9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing as permitted by such license, or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
(10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.
(11) Any person while carrying a firearm in any vehicle, which person possesses a valid and lawfully issued license for that firearm which has been issued under the laws of the United States or any other state.
(12) A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and that said license expired within six months prior to the date of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for renewal of the license.
(13) Any person who is otherwise eligible to possess a firearm under this chapter and who is operating a motor vehicle which is registered in the person's name or the name of a spouse or parent and which contains a firearm for which a valid license has been issued pursuant to section 6109 to the spouse or parent owning the firearm.
(14) A person lawfully engaged in the interstate transportation of a firearm as defined under 18 U.S.C § 921(a)(3) (relating to definitions) in compliance with 18 U.S.C. § 926A (relating to interstate transportation of firearms).
(15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided:
(i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109.
(ii) The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth.
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Thanks for the replies.Much appreciated. ;D
Sounds like I could carry in my vehicle if I wanted to as I have a DE permit, but I was planning on leaving it home. Was going to check out some .380's on the ride back through NCC and Kent.
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BINGO!
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The fact remains that you will have to go into the Courthouse and go through a metal detector and empty all you are carrying into the little basket to go to the Sheriff's office. They even took a very small old pocket knife from me when I went there. There are laws, but then there are "policies" too.
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And the courthouse is SUPPOSED to provide lockers....
http://forum.pafoa.org/lancaster-28/222424-courthouse-policy.html (http://forum.pafoa.org/lancaster-28/222424-courthouse-policy.html)
See post #3
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I'd lock it up in the car and park as close as you could.
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I'd lock it up in the car and park as close as you could.
Agree with Adrenolin. Usually you can park right on the block in front of the courthouse. You pay at the kiosk. Just leave your gun out of sight in the car and lock it up. You should be fine. This is not a "bad" part of town. Actually downtown Lancaster is rather nice.
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I think I'll be making the trip up to Lancaster this coming Tuesday 7/1/14 !
If anyone else is going up please PM maybe we can carpool !