Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
State News & Gun News => NRA & National Gun News => Topic started by: Fishhunter911 on November 18, 2011, 10:03:16 PM
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Isn't it great that we have an @@@ for a member of Senate here in DE?
November 18, 2011
Dear Mr. **********,
Thank you for taking the time to contact to me about the carrying of concealed handguns. I appreciate your input and thoughts on this important subject.
I have learned over the years that gun control can be a very complex issue. Like many of you, I enjoy hunting. The 2nd amendment grants us the right to bear arms, but I believe this right must be exercised responsibly. We must continue working to prevent guns from ending up in the hands of people who are emotionally disturbed or engaged in criminal activity. Implementing common sense measures that do not affect law-abiding citizens will help stop the proliferation of illegal guns on our streets and in our communities. I am supportive of gun enforcement efforts involving police and prosecutors, as well as effective firearm safety education programs. For instance, as Lieutenant Governor, I implemented Delaware's gun trigger lock education and distribution program, which distributed more than 80,000 gun trigger locks in the state.
As you may know, 48 states have laws allowing individuals to carry concealed handguns for personal protection. While "right-to-carry" laws are administered by the states, there have been some attempts to nationalize them. In 2008, the Department of Interior introduced a set of national regulations to authorize the carrying of concealed handguns on public lands. After a series of public hearings, the Department of Interior published the public land concealment regulations in 2009. However, a U.S. District Judge issued an injunction against the regulations shortly thereafter.
On February 18, 2011, Congressman Cliff Stearns (R-FL) introduced H.R. 822, the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act. H.R. 822 would allow an individual with a right-to-carry permit from one state to use the same permit in another state as long as it does not violate state law. I voted against this bill when it came before the House on November 16, 2011, although it ultimately passed.
I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me on these matters. I take seriously the trust Delawareans have placed in me and my responsibility to represent them in Congress, and I look forward to serving you in the coming years.
Sincerely,
John Carney
Member of Congress
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Well he voted against the bill sooooo. I will do my part and vote against him :)
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I wish he would have put some effort into explaining WHY he voted against HR822.
Still, I'm voting against him next time around.
Moosie
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I got the exact same reply, obviously he voted along party lines. I WILL remember him next election!
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Too bad some of these politicians don't grow a set of balls and vote how they want to instead of along party lines. Grrrr.
Moosie
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If I'm not mistaken 49 States now have CCDW permits.
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This is typical of these guys , they can't answer any decent questions & vote however they want. when's the last time one of them took a poll in there communities to see where the common man stands...NEVER. He like all incumbents are on my do not vote for list.
Alan ???
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You would think that a canned response (i got the EXACT same reply word for word) would have had a little more details in it... I suppose when you don't have an explanation for WHY you voted the way you did, other than you are anti, there isn't much you can say... A few lines of BS would have been nice... Transparent, but nice... ;)
The best part is... I don't even think this was a canned response to specific requests about HR822, at least not the top portion of it... I remember seeing the exact same paragraph in a previous correspondence. Choosing to include it here was NOT a good choice... It basically reads to me along the lines of, "I'm pro 2a, but i want good gun control... I want to keep guns out of criminal hands... I want to keep mentally deranged people or those who would do harm to others from being being able to get guns in their hands... It's for this reason that I voted against HR822..." Uhhh What?!?
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I got the same response from him too. Now we know how to vote next election..
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If any of you did your home work, you would not have voted for him before. His record was quite clear on his stance on the Second Amendment, not for it. He mentions hunting. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It is about defending ourselves from a tyranical government.
Isn't it great that we have an @@@ for a member of Senate here in DE?
Sincerely,
John Carney
Member of Congress
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I don't think we, the people of Delaware, can count on either Carney or Coons to help us retain our 2nd Ammendment Rights. They will be the ones that will vote against any firearms bills that would bolster the 2nd Ammendment. They would love to see the 2nd Ammendment abolished. The crazy thing is we keep electing them because of this brilliant "Delaware Way" B/S, that people seem to think of as doing Delaware any good. We are 8% above the national average in crime in this little state, and on the rise for the last two years. Everyone needs to legally arm themselves. If we don't, only the criminals will be armed.
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If any of you did your home work, you would not have voted for him before. His record was quite clear on his stance on the Second Amendment, not for it. He mentions hunting. The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It is about defending ourselves from a tyranical government.
Isn't it great that we have an @@@ for a member of Senate here in DE?
Sincerely,
John Carney
Member of Congress
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1 of many reasons I did NOT voted for him to begin with!! ;D
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One more note that I forgot..........Carney is a representative, not a senator. Carper and Coons are the senators, and we won't get any help from Carper either
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He was a do nothing genius when he was Jaba the Govs. Lieut. Gov. His condition does not appear to be improving.
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If I were you I wouldn't hold my breath on HR 822 getting thru. If it makes it through the Democrat controlled Senate, Obama will VETO the bill. There will be no help from Delaware Congressmen as they are all Democrats and Carney and Coons vored against it. Carper is not going to be any better. If it is vetoed by Obama I don't feel it will be overridden if it were togo back for a revote. You can count on anything that has to do with firearms will get a thumbs down in this Obama Administration, and if he is re-elected he will start dissasembling the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Wouldn't be surprised if he starts collecting all of our guns.
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I'm a realist at heart too, and I get the same darn disresectful canned answers from all the GREAT ONES too, but if we all keep up the contacts with them, maybe they'll remember it in the back of their little minds IF a deal hits their desk that includes this passing ("I did get several calls/e-mails saying this was good..."). OK- hope springs eternal and all- cause MAN DO I WANT THIS BILL TO BE LAW!!!!! What a great ease of mind and of my life that would be!! I'll keep writing and calling- hope ya'll do too. Pete D.---
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If I were you I wouldn't hold my breath on HR 822 getting thru. If it makes it through the Democrat controlled Senate, Obama will VETO the bill. There will be no help from Delaware Congressmen as they are all Democrats and Carney and Coons vored against it. Carper is not going to be any better. If it is vetoed by Obama I don't feel it will be overridden if it were togo back for a revote. You can count on anything that has to do with firearms will get a thumbs down in this Obama Administration, and if he is re-elected he will start dissasembling the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. Wouldn't be surprised if he starts collecting all of our guns.
If it get's through the Senate (where it does seem to have quite a bit of support), don't be so quick to be sure it'll be veto'd by Obama... Bills are rarely ever sent to be signed by a Pres by themselves... They are almost ALWAYS bundled together in large bundles that include a bunch of stuff the president WANTS and doesn't want... In other words, you wrap up HR822 with something like the Jobs bill that Obama wants VERY badly and it's a bit like an ultimatum... You sign this in and you get your jobs bill and we get our other stuff we want that you'd never approve on your own, or else you don't sign it and you can forget about the other stuff that you want...
It's kinda crazy, but it's just one more example of how politics work... Even though the word "work" may be up for debate... ;)
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Lets all hope Rusirus is right. Because if Obama gets reelected he will ignore Congress, worse that he is now, and use Presidential Proclamations to make any law he wants. He thinks he can be King Obama. If he is re-elected gun owners and America is screwed.
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Anyways, back to HR 822. Currently it sits in the Senate Judiciary Committee. A Democrat majority committee with our own Chris Coons being a member.
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members.cfm
This is the URL of the committee members and the states they're from.
I suggest that we spend a bunch of computer time emailing members of that committee as to the need to get HR 822 to the floor for an up or down vote. They need to hear our voice or it will sit there and possibly die. This bill has had pi-partisan support and sponsorship in the House but will need all the help it can get in the Senate. You know the old saying, "A squeeking wheel gets greased first". We need to make some noise about the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, HR 822.
Please email the members of this committe and make some noise. (keeping it civil of course)
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It doesn't surprise me the reply you got from him. I've written to all three of the libtards and ALWAYS get their canned vanilla replies. I recently received one from Carney that was SO vanilla, I immediately replied back stating I would do EVERYTHING to make sure he doesn't get re-elected! Probably marked me I'm sure and I'm getting ready to submit my CCW permit end of this week! Hope I'm not flagged!
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I got a canned rely from Crapper and no reply from Coons. We all know how to vote in November!