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CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: quickdraw on July 10, 2009, 07:07:43 PM

Title: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: quickdraw on July 10, 2009, 07:07:43 PM
I just checked the Delaware Attorney General's website and discovered Virgina permits are now being recognized. I also checked the Virginia State Police website and found that Delaware permits are now honored here as well.

This news has made my day! As a former resident of Delaware (60 years) I visit frequently and was about to apply for a Florida non resident permit even if it required a 3 month minimum delay.

 
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on July 13, 2009, 10:15:57 AM
Hey Quickdraw thanks for the update, I'm glad that Delaware is still adding more states for us to carry in even with Biden as the AG this is a real plus.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: ProShooter on August 07, 2009, 11:37:03 AM
Hey Quickdraw thanks for the update, I'm glad that Delaware is still adding more states for us to carry in even with Biden as the AG this is a real plus.

hopefully we won't lose this again.

we had it a few months ago for about 3 days
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on August 07, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
Really I never heard this, care to fill us in?
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: turfmn on August 15, 2009, 11:33:26 AM
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm

Delaware is listed in the link above.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: ProShooter on August 16, 2009, 11:19:55 AM
Really I never heard this, care to fill us in?


which part? The current agreement or the 3 day one?
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on August 16, 2009, 09:44:08 PM
The 3 day one.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: ProShooter on August 17, 2009, 06:04:44 PM
I can't seem to find much on it now as the Delaware AG's office now shows the current reciprocity agreement with Va. I imagine that a google cache search would show it being there one day and when it was removed.

We referenced it on our website's blog back in October. Somewhere between October 14 and January 5, it was observed the reciprocity with Virginia was removed from the AG site. It was obviously more than 3 days, but it was a very short time. It kind of just showed up one day and was gone the next time that you looked for it, hence the "3 day" comment.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: quickdraw on August 18, 2009, 03:18:50 AM
This did happen last October. It lasted for about 10 days. Every couple of days I check for updates on VA State Police website and also  www.handgunlaw.us (http://www.handgunlaw.us). handgunlaw.us is very prompt and accurate with their updates. 
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: ProShooter on August 21, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
This did happen last October. It lasted for about 10 days. Every couple of days I check for updates on VA State Police website and also  www.handgunlaw.us (http://www.handgunlaw.us). handgunlaw.us is very prompt and accurate with their updates. 

Thank you quickdraw. I knew it was a very short time span like that. Gladly, now its a done deal.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: mrjam2jab on September 05, 2009, 01:37:45 AM
I live in PA...and am thinking about getting my non-resident VA permit so that I can carry in DE.  DE isnt one of those states that only acknowledges resident permits are they?  In other words do i have to be a VA resident for DE to recip?
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on September 05, 2009, 03:02:40 AM
I've never seen anything that says it can't be a out of state permit. Why do you want to get an out of state VA permit. FL or Utah would give you a lot more states to carry in.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: mrjam2jab on September 05, 2009, 03:56:03 AM
I've never seen anything that says it can't be a out of state permit. Why do you want to get an out of state VA permit. FL or Utah would give you a lot more states to carry in.

Basically, its because i currently dont have any "formal" training....ie. NRA courses or hunter safety classes...so my plan was to take one of the online courses that VA accepts...

However, i registered on NRA.com for an NRA Basic class for Sept 19...just waiting to hear from the instructor...once i have that then FL becomes an option.  I'd really like to get UT...as renewals only cost $10...but that UT class is a little harder to schedule... :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: GunEnvy on September 05, 2009, 01:09:58 PM
I've heard, but don't know for positive, that even if you have a CCW from a state the Delaware accepts you still need the course. Before you bank on the VA permiy check to see if you need the class still.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on September 05, 2009, 01:26:25 PM
Never heard that GunEnvy, but it is definitely something to look into. I always thought it was as long as you had the permit that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: GunEnvy on September 05, 2009, 02:42:23 PM
The way I heard it was that they accept a permit from state XYZ but you still need to meet the requirements that Delaware requires. 
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: mrjam2jab on September 05, 2009, 03:01:09 PM
I've heard, but don't know for positive, that even if you have a CCW from a state the Delaware accepts you still need the course. Before you bank on the VA permiy check to see if you need the class still.

You are sort of correct.  The reason PA doenst have recip with DE...and many other states...is because PA doesnt require any training to get the LTCF....which makes it odd that PA and VA have recip.  To get VA I have to take a safety class.  DE will only recip with states that require training to get a permit..
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on September 05, 2009, 03:52:41 PM
Which is weird because I cant find anything in writing that states this. I cant see DSP asking to see your training cert if you get pulled over.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: mrjam2jab on September 06, 2009, 02:00:56 AM
Which is weird because I cant find anything in writing that states this. I cant see DSP asking to see your training cert if you get pulled over.

Not sure if you're referring to my info...but if so...

http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/crime/concealedweapons.shtml (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/crime/concealedweapons.shtml)


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Pursuant to 11 Del.C. ' 1441(j), as of July 11, 2003, Delaware law allows residents of other states who have been issued a concealed deadly weapon license or permit by certain other states to lawfully carry concealed deadly weapons in Delaware if the state that issued the permit or license also recognizes Delaware's concealed deadly weapons licenses, and if Delaware's Attorney General also determines that the concealed deadly weapons licensing or permit laws in the issuing state "afford a reasonably similar degree of protection as is provided by licensure in Delaware." The Attorney General has determined that only states that require proof of training in firearms safety as a part of their licensing or permit process can meet this requirement.
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: Sigarms12 on September 06, 2009, 10:38:00 AM
MrJab2Jam what I was refering to was I can't find anything in writting that states that even if their is an agreement between DE and another state that you have to go out and get a firearms safety class before you can carry in DE. It looks like all the law says is that DE will only go into agreements with states that already require some sort of firearms training class. So I would think if VA has an agreement with DE thats all that matters.

"Pursuant to 11 Del.C. ' 1441(j), as of July 11, 2003, Delaware law allows residents of other states who have been issued a concealed deadly weapon license or permit by certain other states to lawfully carry concealed deadly weapons in Delaware if the state that issued the permit or license also recognizes Delaware's concealed deadly weapons licenses, and if Delaware's Attorney General also determines that the concealed deadly weapons licensing or permit laws in the issuing state "afford a reasonably similar degree of protection as is provided by licensure in Delaware." The Attorney General has determined that only states that require proof of training in firearms safety as a part of their licensing or permit process can meet this requirement."
Title: Re: Delaware - Virginia now reciprocal
Post by: quickdraw on September 08, 2009, 02:52:37 AM
Virginia accepts various types of training, including NRA certified on line training.The Concealed Carry Institute in Norfolk VA is one of them. You may obtain a non resident application from the VA State Police website.
Also acceptable training is a copy of a hunter education course, or proof of prior military service.