Wilmington's problems are over!

[oldgraygeek]

I'm sure this will clean up the streets...

WILMINGTON — With gun violence at an all-time high, City Council members Thursday night took the unusual step of seeking federal help, in the form of a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study of the escalating “pandemic” of shootings.

Councilwoman Hanifa Shabazz sponsored a resolution – unanimously passed just minutes ago – to request the federal study as a matter of public health.

The resolution called it “imperative that national attention be given to the violence,’’ urging the CDC, “charged to protect American from health and safety threats ... [to] examine and respond to the current surge in gun violence and help mitigate the effects it has on our children and youth.”

Of course, as a liberal, I'm excited at the prospect of the federal government coming to protect us.

And, as a law-abiding gun owner... I'm hoping the CDC can prove, once and for all, that stupidity is contagious!

[Cbmarine]

What's the likelihood that the CDC will determine that the problem is you and your ilk, the s t u p i d gun owners?

(Had an interesting text correction occur; as I posted the comment, the word s t u p i d changed to b r i l l i a n t)

[Cbmarine]

A later paragraph in the same newspaper article:

Gregory agreed that a study might generate funding to help the city fight crime, but said he doubts the CDC would answer Wilmington’s call, even though the city ranked third in violent crime in 2010 for cities of similar size, according to FBI statistics.

[Hawkeye]

I thought the CDC has already done just that. In January the Dalibama (twho) ordered CDC to study gun violence.

Obama issued a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other scientific agencies to research the causes and prevention of gun violence -- and he called on Congress to provide $10 million to pay for it.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/obama-plan-eases-freeze-cdc-gun-violence-research-1B7999574

I don't think they found what MS Shabazz was looking for.

1. Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker:
“Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was ‘used’ by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies.”

2. Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

3. Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining:
“The number of public mass shootings of the type that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School accounted for a very small fraction of all firearm-related deaths. Since 1983 there have been 78 events in which 4 or more individuals were killed by a single perpetrator in 1 day in the United States, resulting in 547 victims and 476 injured persons.” The report also notes, “Unintentional firearm-related deaths have steadily declined during the past century. The number of unintentional deaths due to firearm-related incidents accounted for less than 1 percent of all unintentional fatalities in 2010.”

4. “Interventions” (i.e, gun control) such as background checks, so-called assault rifle bans and gun-free zones produce “mixed” results:
“Whether gun restrictions reduce firearm-related violence is an unresolved issue.” The report could not conclude whether “passage of right-to-carry laws decrease or increase violence crime.”

5. Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:
“There is empirical evidence that gun turn in programs are ineffective, as noted in the 2005 NRC study Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review. For example, in 2009, an estimated 310 million guns were available to civilians in the United States (Krouse, 2012), but gun buy-back programs typically recover less than 1,000 guns (NRC, 2005). On the local level, buy-backs may increase awareness of firearm violence. However, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, for example, guns recovered in the buy-back were not the same guns as those most often used in homicides and suicides (Kuhn et al., 2002).”

6. Stolen guns and retail/gun show purchases account for very little crime:
“More recent prisoner surveys suggest that stolen guns account for only a small percentage of guns used by convicted criminals. … According to a 1997 survey of inmates, approximately 70 percent of the guns used or possess by criminals at the time of their arrest came from family or friends, drug dealers, street purchases, or the underground market.”

7. The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides:
“Between the years 2000-2010 firearm-related suicides significantly outnumbered homicides for all age groups, annually accounting for 61 percent of the more than 335,600 people who died from firearms related violence in the United States.”

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/08/27/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/#ixzz2mf5jKJ4D

[Adrenolin]

Yup.. another 'study'. Thats whats needed. 

[TwistedKarma]

 Shabazz believes the violence may be related to deep-seeded issues.

 "The African American community here in the United States of America is still suffering from the traumatic syndrome of slavery and so that compounded with the many effects that are happening in today's society and the things that they're seeing," she said.

      really?     

[Etrier]

Given that the State of Delaware Statistical Analysis Center has provided the following information:
2010
Arrests for Possession of a Firearm by a Person Prohibited 964, convictions on that charge 160, conviction rate 16.6%
2011
Arrests for Possession of a Firearm by a Person Prohibited 1199, convictions on that charge 204, conviction rate 17%
2012
No information currently available.
The stats are not broken down by jurisdiction.  My personal guess is that Wilmington has at least 60% of the arrests listed in the stats. 

Results of this members simple study.  We fail to convict nearly 1000 people per year who are prohibited from gun ownership who have been arrested for possession of a gun.  It would appear that the police departments are doing a reasonable job to curb gun violence based on the number of arrests.  I can not say the same for the AG's office.  The result is that hundreds of convicted felons are eventually back on the street with the ability to go get another gun and if arrested they face only a 17% conviction rate.

The courts and AG's office of Delaware are teaching by personal experience that if you are a criminal arrested with a gun that you are prohibited from possessing you will most likely not be convicted on that charge.   

A reasonable person might ask why is the conviction rate so low?  The answer seems to be that if convicted on this kind of charge there is mandatory sentencing that would overcrowd the states prison system so we use this charge as a tradeoff for other purposes. 

So the final result is that Wilmington is a shooting gallery,  the Wilmington Police Department leadership needs to be changed,  the CDC needs to come to Wilmington and perform a study and the prison system is not overcrowded.   So the news reports shooting after shooting in Wilmington and those who believe what they read in the news print wonder why this is happening while those in power simply standby with the full realization of what needs to be done but building new prisons does not get them re-elected .  In the end the fix for the gun violence in Wilmington will be new gun control legislation for all of the citizens of Delaware because that will keep us safe.

[Just Bill]

I don't ever recall seeing any of what Haweye mentioned appearing in our world renowned New Journal.

But I did see where DE autos must now meet Calif. emission standards.  So be warned, that our one party system will also be trying to adopt their guns laws come January.  The more I hear from Markell and the DE progressives, the more it seems to mirror Obama politics, IE...socialism.  You know, that touchy, feely, "we know is best for you"  crap.

[Hawkeye]

I don't ever recall seeing any of what Haweye mentioned appearing in our world renowned New Urinal.

There, I fixed it for you.

[SturmRugerSR9]

Wilmington will never be over it's problem as long as the are run by Liberal/Progressive Democrats . It's the same in every major city is US. Let Detroit be an example. And yet the people up there keep electing the same people or their kinds, and expecting a different result.
Wait a minute, isn't that the definition of morons? OOPS!

[poster formerly know as Silverbullet]

 Shabazz believes the violence may be related to deep-seeded issues.

 "The African American community here in the United States of America is still suffering from the traumatic syndrome of slavery and so that compounded with the many effects that are happening in today's society and the things that they're seeing," she said.

      really?     

There are countless books written and NAACP statistics as well as other statistics I could shred her argument with, but I would rather not have a ban.

[Capnball]

The "study" will reinforce the Statist party line - "Gun Violence is caused by the unwashed masses having unfettered access to guns and not by individual human actions" as has every such study since the so called "Progressive Movement" started its full-on attack and destruction of our nation some 50 years ago. The solution they will promote of course, will be to disarm as many of the politically unconnected people as possible. You will notice that the Statist Elite always manage to have some access to personal defense, often at taxpayer expense and sometimes by quiet over-stepping of the laws that they enforce with vigilance against us.  Wilmington is a cesspool, as is every city run by the Statists over many decades. Unfortunately, our entire State is being crushed by the same bully-Statists that have been in power for more than 2 decades. While I personally will never vote for a democrat; I have to say that I now investigate as closely as I can, candidates of the other party. Both parties are heavily infected with wanna-be dictators and bullies, however I think the Democrats to be so over run with these evil people that the party is virtually worthless if you support the concept of limited government and individual liberty.

[poster formerly know as Silverbullet]

Wilmington will never be over it's problem as long as the are run by Liberal/Progressive Democrats . It's the same in every major city is US. Let Detroit be an example. And yet the people up there keep electing the same people or their kinds, and expecting a different result.
Wait a minute, isn't that the definition of morons? OOPS!

I once read a book called the fall of detroit ( not for the politically correct) and it pointed out that Pittsburg is a very good city run by democrats. One thesis the book makes is that when you combine a population with a "victim mentality" and liberlal/progressive policies is where the problem is