Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: FreakShow on September 05, 2016, 03:49:43 AM
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I was telling a friend about a holster i just bought, he asked if i was going to open carry. I said yes, once i file it's going to take some time, my gun sitting in a closet is not going to protect me. He told me that once i get a CCP than i can no longer open carry. I said i don't think it works that way. Delaware is an open carry state and the permit allows you to conceal and that's all it does, it doesn't restrict you from not being able to open carry. at least that my interpretation of it. am i wrong about this?
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you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
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you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
Don't go over to the OC site and ask that question -- because you'll keep getting answers far into next week!
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This is why I don't mind the slightly more complex application process in Delaware. Forget which but a few other states don't allow OC if you have a CCW, CCDW, etc permit. Some allow it but it's one or the other and printing or a wind gust at a fuel pump exposing your concealed firearm could kind you in jail, a large fine, an annoying chat to an officer if some twit calls 911. We do have many issues I'd like to see changed however we have a few nice perks they haven't copied from other states. For the most part I'm happy! I'll be happier when parks get opened up!
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you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
Don't go over to the OC site and ask that question -- because you'll keep getting answers far into next week!
I totally agree with that I have had my own issues with some of those snots over there.
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see the printing issue shouldn't even come into question. I'm a diabetic and i know tons out there that wear the pump and it's connected to your waist, is it could look like you have a weapon under your shirt. are the cops gonna shoot that person.
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see the printing issue shouldn't even come into question. I'm a diabetic and i know tons out there that wear the pump and it's connected to your waist, is it could look like you have a weapon under your shirt. are the cops gonna shoot that person.
Based on the current SOP -- yes, and then call for back-up and an ammo drop so that they can shoot again...
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you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
ever go somewhere that you don't want to be bothered, like shopping and every sales person bugs the crap out of you or anything else. how likely is it that you think the average joe is gonna walk up and start bothering the guy brandishing the gun.. unless they themselves are a gun addict,lol.i know it sounds like a power thing but it's not.. sometimes i wear grey shoes, sometimes black, why, because i can
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It is an Open Carry site, not surprising....lol, there are some exceptions there, as there are everywhere, but overall.... not for me.
you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
Don't go over to the OC site and ask that question -- because you'll keep getting answers far into next week!
I totally agree with that I have had my own issues with some of those snots over there.
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Overall, the question is somewhat interesting because, prior to the training requirement being instituted -- there was no mention of the "CCW means forfeiting your OC rights" idea. Of course, at that time -- there was really no mention of OC, either. And most of the repeaters of the forfeiting information say that they learned it in their training class, so...
Even before that concern, though, there was still the mention of the "flashing" problem -- which pushed the fear of getting arrested at gas stations.
Given the amount of times that the OCers mention how no one really notices their weapons, I'm sort of thinking that the general public may not notice if you had a sloth hanging onto your backside. I do tend to believe that the public probably notices those weapons more than they think, but probably don't want to say anything. Still, there are probably bigger things to be concerned about, including unsolicited advice. That being said -- it's great to ask questions.
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The question of Open Carry is a moot point. It has always been legal in Delaware. As recently as 2014 it was unanimously affirmed to be a fundimental right in Delaware by the state Supreme Court.
Concealed carry was viewed as underhanded and nefarious and was banned in Delaware in 1883. Honest people would carry weapons in the open.
With urbanization, it was recognized that citizens of " good character " might have need to conceal carry might do so under license. This was the birth of the current system in 1911.
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The question of Open Carry is a moot point. It has always been legal in Delaware. As recently as 2014 it was unanimously affirmed to be a fundimental right in Delaware by the state Supreme Court.
Concealed carry was viewed as underhanded and nefarious and was banned in Delaware in 1883. Honest people would carry weapons in the open.
With urbanization, it was recognized that citizens of " good character " might have need to conceal carry might do so under license. This was the birth of the current system in 1911.
Cool info, thanks Clarence!
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i was about to say that i know i ask a lot of questions on the forum and thought maybe i was being a bit of a pain, but i will retract that thought from my head. I'm a talker
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...I'm sort of thinking that the general public may not notice if you had a sloth hanging onto your backside...
next time someone remarks about my backside, I'll just tell them it is a sloth!
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i get my wife to shave my back so i don't look like a sloth
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you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
Because he legally can in Delaware.
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Hell Yeah,,,lol
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you are correct you can still open carry if your heart desires. But why would you after getting your permit
ever go somewhere that you don't want to be bothered, like shopping and every sales person bugs the crap out of you or anything else. how likely is it that you think the average joe is gonna walk up and start bothering the guy brandishing the gun.. unless they themselves are a gun addict,lol.i know it sounds like a power thing but it's not.. sometimes i wear grey shoes, sometimes black, why, because i can
So much wrong with this mindset and none are good reasons for OC at all. While I believe OC has it's place if you have a CC permit there would be very few moments when OC would be preferred and none of your examples would be right for either. OC if you like but never for any intimidation reasons.
- You don't carry a firearm, concealed or OC, to keep people from bothering you.
- Legal OC of a firearm is NOT brandishing a firearm. Touching or even giving the appearance of doing so while in a non life threatening situation to you could end with you in jail or being arrested. Proving so is more difficult then you realize and "that sales guy was in my face" certainly isn't going to fly.
- I could easily see some anti-gun totally-offended-by-all-guns left-wing nutcase walking up to you and bothering you. Heck, any anti-gun or concerned LEO in Delaware can detain you for up to 2 hours if they believe you could be a safety risk or to simply legally harass you. Yes.. They have that authority.
Legally possessing a firearm on ones person for protection is a great responsibility. If you honestly think any of those reasons is a valid reason to carry you need to stop and seriously reconsider things. Not judging you in any way but just saying...
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easy now. i'm not going to walk around with my chest out letting people know" hey look at me, i have a gun so don't freakin bother me" attitude. that's not my point. as all things, translation sometime gets lost in text and typing. For now i don't have my permit, my ad goes into the Guide today and i will file soon. I will open carry for now but not everywhere. The gun itself does me no good in protecting me if it's sitting in a closet. Although i do enjoy shooting the gun for fun, i bought it to use as in a dire need to protect myself. I myself do not want to have to pull a gun on anyone for anything and so far have not had to resort in any resort to any type of physical violence where i thought i had to put someone down. But with the recent situation i had and they way things are going in this world, i feel the need to want to protect myself in case that type of situation does come about. Therefore, for now if or when my permit comes to me, i will OC
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One of the concerns that I have with OC is that everyone, including the bad guys, knows that you have a gun. This could make you a target for robbery that otherwise might not happen. The BG will just be more careful in how he would approach you to steal your gun. You would need to keep a very high alert condition at all times and I'm not sure just how possible this without becoming draining. It has happened before that an OCer was attacked and his gun taken.
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well, i just bought online an Alien Gear holster, cloak mod OWB. after watching the videos and reading all the reviews i chose this holster because it didn't look to easy for someone to pull the gun out unless they knew what they were doing. but i will put up a review once it comes in the mail.
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I OC on a few rare occasions, like around my place or on the farm for a comfort reason. Some times my CC holster is uncomfortable in certain work requirements. My OC holster, has a retention strap to hold the gun in place better in certain bending and stooping cases. I'm sure no body here would want to drop their gun in a fresh cow pie. Also, when riding a tractor it can be uncomfortable to have a IWB carried gun poking you in the ribs. But normally I use my IWB holster when away from home.
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my wife has CC, and usually has her glock when we're out together. i'm going to experiment with it at first, cause i'm still unsure about doing it too. saw a guy a a car show with one, i thought, hmmm he's got a gun then i walked away to go look at the cars.