Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
State News & Gun News => Delaware News => Topic started by: Kimber HD on March 08, 2013, 01:23:51 PM
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http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130308/NEWS/303060100/Wilmington-City-Council-unveils-gun-control-bill
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Also the Gun Registration Bill has hit the State Legislature. House Bill 35 with total Democrat sponsors has been introduced and assigned to the Judiciary Committee already. The Judiciary Committee is Democrat controlled with only a few Republicans on the Committee. As I see it, it is not likey that it will remain in committee long. I look for it to be brought to the follr for discussion and a vote quickly.
http://legis.delaware.gov/LIS/lis147.nsf/vwLegislation/HB+35/$file/legis.html?open
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Not that I agree with it, but what I took from reading the bill is no F2F transactions.
And we all know the criminals will use an FFL to transfer their guns to other criminals.
So, it's a good crime stopping bill. :PUKE:
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Found it. The FFL must maintain name/address and make it available for inspection.
Again, I can see the criminals running out and doing this...
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Something else of interest...
HB35 is sponsored and co-sponsored by Dems, with one exception. Rep. Ramone (R-21) is a co-sponsor on the bill as well. Either he's a RINO, or he doesn't understand what the bill really does.
I'm going to reach out to him.
Sean
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I've already called my Rep today. Received a phone call from him a while ago. Spoke for 15-20 minutes.
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Loop hole sale all weekend ... anyone for a poly legend ak?
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THIS IS CITY. Separate from any other bills.
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Found it. The FFL must maintain name/address and make it available for inspection.
Again, I can see the criminals running out and doing this...
Another case of a proposed law that will not be enforced due to budget constraints and most police officers have better things to do.
When will they realize the criminals will always get the guns they want. Let the laws-abiding citizen protect him/herself with an appropriate firearm.
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Always interested in an AK......
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Something else of interest...
HB35 is sponsored and co-sponsored by Dems, with one exception. Rep. Ramone (R-21) is a co-sponsor on the bill as well. Either he's a RINO, or he doesn't understand what the bill really does.
I'm going to reach out to him.
Sean
Just received a nice email from Representative Jeff Spiegelman - "I am a NRA member, a firearm owner and collector, and a Military Historian who knows the value and purpose of the 2nd Amendment. I will not vote for a law that punishes law-abiding gun owners for the actions of criminals and mad men."
Keep up the good work Jeff.
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Always interested in an AK......
Better watch it. I am serious.
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Photos of said AK, extras, price, member discounts?
I was always wanting to get a Russian AK, to tag along with my Tula SKS. Should have done that a decade ago. Don't know much about the Polytech legend, but will read up...
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(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/331416000/331416743/pix170779960.jpg)
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Looks like sellers are asking $2500 to $3000+ on Gunbroker. Wow! Thanks for posting, but way out of my league TK. Sweet piece.
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Asking price in PM please !
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Found it. The FFL must maintain name/address and make it available for inspection.
Again, I can see the criminals running out and doing this...
BTW, I used to live in NJ and now PA. This is what was required to own a firearm and to buy ammo:
-Go to the local PD and pick up paperwork.
-Set a time to meet with the Sheriff.
-Go back with paperwork (2-3 pages)
-Make sure you have $68 (Money orders ONLY)
-Get finger printed, have a face to face meeting, go over paperwork and any concerns. Takes about 15-30 minutes and asked why you want guns.
-Wait 30-90 days for approval after they hear from 2 references.
-Go back again and meet with the PD and go over a few things.
-If you get a permit to buy a hand gun it lasts only for 90 days and must be renewed at the PD for another 90 days...then it permanently expires.
-If you want more permits to buy a hand gun you go through the process again!
-If you want to buy ammo (.22LR, .223, .410 or any handgun ammo) it must be logged and show your license and FOID card.
BTW, FTF transfers are ILLEGAL and all transactions must go through an FFL. So, to all those that are thrilled that background checks that posted on the Miller Firearms thread, this is what you're asking for. Also, how's that helped with crime in Camden, AC, Newark, Hoboken, Glouster, etc, etc, etc. It does NOTHING! I felt like a freaking criminal for simply practicing an INALIENABLE Right! From what I've heard is it's much worse now and wait times are minimum of 3-4 months, home inspections, unwarranted searches, questioning family members why YOU need a gun etc.
Keep it up people, the "for your safety" bs leads to your rights eroded.
OH, BTW, this has NOTHING to do with your CCW, this process is only to be ABLE to purchase a BB gun,ammo, shotgun or rifle. Handguns require the additional steps...
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HB 35 has been amended to exclude DECCW holders from additional background checks:
http://legis.delaware.gov/LIS/lis147.nsf/vwLegislation/HA+1+to+HB+35/$file/legis.html?open
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HB 35 has been amended to exclude DECCW holders from additional background checks:
http://legis.delaware.gov/LIS/lis147.nsf/vwLegislation/HA+1+to+HB+35/$file/legis.html?open
Still a no go in my book. This is them trying to appease the CCDW folks
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The only thing that would appease me if sticking to the strict law laid out by the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. We don't need some knee-jerk politicians trying to fix something that isn't broke.
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The only thing that would appease me if sticking to the strict law laid out by the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. We don't need some knee-jerk politicians trying to fix something that isn't broke.
Where is the "like" button for this post?
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The only thing that would appease me if sticking to the strict law laid out by the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. We don't need some knee-jerk politicians trying to fix something that isn't broke.
Where is the "like" button for this post?
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The only thing that would appease me if sticking to the strict law laid out by the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution. We don't need some knee-jerk politicians trying to fix something that isn't broke.
""All that the South has ever desired was the Union as established by our forefathers should be preserved and that the government as originally organized should be administered in purity and truth." Gen. Robert E. Lee sometimes stated as "All that the South has ever wanted was for the Constitution as established by our founders to be followed"
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HB 35 passed by Senate at 4:20 today
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sad day for all.............
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we need to remember the sellouts who voted for it when elections roll around
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Whether you call yourself a Democrat, or Republican, remember the traitors to our Second Amendment, the next two elections, and vote them out. Send them letters and "E" mails, reminding them they have violated their oath to defend the constitution, and you will vote accordingly.
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Vote and help them or their opponent. I guess that means I will need to support Bruce Ennis and I don't usually support democrats.
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Yes, support Bruce Ennis...personally know him...he is gun guy and A rating from NRA..he will not vote for any of the anti-gun bills..
you must be in same dist as I am..Where?
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Now we need to start a campaign to repeal SB 35.
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Joet, I am in longmeadow how about you?
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SteveMiller...2 mi from Port Penn..I will send you a PM
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HB 35 has been amended to exclude DECCW holders from additional background checks:
http://legis.delaware.gov/LIS/lis147.nsf/vwLegislation/HA+1+to+HB+35/$file/legis.html?open
Still a no go in my book. This is them trying to appease the CCDW folks
I just read the bill and don't see where this was included when signed (HB 35 has been amended to exclude DECCW holders from additional background checks:)
am I mis reading and also at one time thought C and R was included (that might have been in Fed one that didn't go) anybody have any better info or interpetations
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http://legis.delaware.gov/LIS/lis147.nsf/db0bad0e2af0bf31852568a5005f0f58/b266963c8b227c1885257b3c0076ad56?OpenDocument
(c) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) Transactions in which the potential purchaser or transferee is a parent, mother-in-law, father-in-law, stepparent, legal guardian, grandparent, child, daughter-in-law, son-in-law, stepchild, grandchild, sibling, sister-in-law, brother-in-law, spouse, or civil union partner of the seller or transferor;
(2) Any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898;
(3) Any replica of any firearm described in paragraph (b)(2) of this section if such replica:
a. Is not designed or redesigned to use rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition; or
b. Uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade;
(4) Any muzzle loading firearm designed for hunting or competitive shooting not requiring a criminal background check pursuant to federal law;
(5) Transactions in which the potential purchaser or transferee is a qualified active duty law-enforcement officer or a qualified retired law-enforcement officer, as such terms are defined in 11 Del.C. §1441A;
(6) Transactions in which the potential purchaser or transferee holds a current and valid concealed carry permit issued by the Superior Court of the State of Delaware pursuant to §1441 of this title.
(7) Transactions in which the prospective buyer or transferee is a bona fide member or adherent of an organized church or religious group, the tenets of which prohibit photographic identification; provided, however, that no unlicensed person shall sell or transfer any firearm to any such person without having conducted a criminal history background check in accordance with paragraph (f) hereunder to determine whether the sale or transfer would be in violation of federal or state law;
(8 ) Transactions involving the sale or transfer of a curio or relic to a licensed collector, as such terms are defined in 27 C.F.R. § 478.11, as the same may be amended from time to time;
(9) Transactions involving the sale or transfer of a firearm to an authorized representative of the State or any subdivision thereof as part of an authorized voluntary gun buyback program.
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I live in the City......I look at this as another feel good bill and that City of Wilmington Council jumped on the band wagon for election season. I repeat....not one of the #$%(ing bills does anything to take guns away from those prohibited or unstable. I see the taxation on firearms being the next step. I will contact a few council members to find out what is up their sleeves. This reminds me that our schools are poor due to limited tax base because of the influx of illegal aliens (which by the way, schools are not allowed to ask) and now by registering and eventually taxing legal gun owners, we will be paying the bills for the illegal gun owners. ???
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Twisted...yes this if for the city, but don't be surprised to see the stae change the law to accomodate the city, and include us.
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I live in the City......I look at this as another feel good bill and that City of Wilmington Council jumped on the band wagon for election season. I repeat....not one of the #$%(ing bills does anything to take guns away from those prohibited or unstable. I see the taxation on firearms being the next step. I will contact a few council members to find out what is up their sleeves. This reminds me that our schools are poor due to limited tax base because of the influx of illegal aliens (which by the way, schools are not allowed to ask) and now by registering and eventually taxing legal gun owners, we will be paying the bills for the illegal gun owners. ???
Agree with you 100%. Some will not see it though until they are tuning in ( or having) their guns taken by federal agents.
There are lots of things they can fix about Wilmington before even worrying about our guns. How about the lack of a father in many households? How about people who keep having kids to keep the checks coming?
Anti-gun politicians worry about how many rounds we carry in magazine or how many rounds one will hold as it relates to crime? If we want to be honest and not worry about inconvenient truths I have an idea that will cut down on crime. I am so sure I would bet my Colt 1911 and my ESP guitar on it along with my Marshall amp. That is how confident I am.
Here is my idea. Instead of worrying about how many rounds our magazines hold worry about how many illegitimate children people are having on the welfare rolls. Someone in public housing, on food stamps, welfare who has no ambition to better themselves has committed fraud by getting pregnant while on the public dough. Since Public assistance is not a right, but a privilege I think norplant as a condition of continuing benefits would probably cut down on the crime rate very significantly over an 18 year period.
Just my thought on something our legislators could work on. The reason they wont is broken homes result in more liberal voters.