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CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: 29thInfantry on April 27, 2015, 01:48:27 AM

Title: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on April 27, 2015, 01:48:27 AM
I am hearing conflicting opinions on when is the proper time to take your firearms course as required by the CCDW process.  I have heard do it before you file it will save time and some are saying that you should wait until after your permit is issued.  So what is it wait or submit it with your paperwork?
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on April 27, 2015, 01:51:33 AM
Found this http://www.concealedcarryclass.net/concealed-carry-class-delaware/

this is the article that said you should wait till after you get approved.  Is this bullshido??
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: oldgraygeek on April 27, 2015, 01:52:59 AM
Many of us are of the opinion that it's best to take it before, and submit the certificate with the application.
My wife and I and my best friend all did it that way, and all the applications were successful.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Clarence on April 27, 2015, 01:58:47 AM
I concur with Old Geek.  We ( Mrs. "Clarence" and I) took our class together and received our licenses in 14 and 9 weeks respectively.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Tonym on April 27, 2015, 02:07:41 AM
I took my class first and turned in the whole application complete, in person. It cant make the process go any slower right?
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on April 27, 2015, 03:06:45 AM
Thanks all that is what I was thinking anyway that site that I posted with this just didnt make sense
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: lems902 on April 27, 2015, 04:00:52 AM
I agree - do it in advance and save yourself some time.  I believe the only item that has a time requirement is the newspaper ad...
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: lynch on April 27, 2015, 09:00:03 AM
The only way it makes sense to take the class after you receive approval is if you have doubts about getting approved in the first place. You would save some cash if things fell through. Otherwise, take it and get it over with.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Clarence on April 27, 2015, 11:32:10 AM
I agree - do it in advance and save yourself some time.  I believe the only item that has a time requirement is the newspaper ad...
Fingerprints are also time sensitive as well. 45 days
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Radnor on April 27, 2015, 12:31:32 PM
It is up to you.  If you take it before submitting your paperwork EVERYTHING will be there and it will go a little faster.
If you take it after submitting and are approved you will receive a letter stating you have 90 days from the date of the letter to submit the certificate (or I believe enrolment in a class) or you will be automatically denied.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: joep19934 on April 28, 2015, 02:04:05 AM
I am hearing conflicting opinions on when is the proper time to take your firearms course as required by the CCDW process.  I have heard do it before you file it will save time and some are saying that you should wait until after your permit is issued.  So what is it wait or submit it with your paperwork?

I agree with everyone else, if you do it all at once then you're done and would not delay the process any more than it needs to be!
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on May 01, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
Went in to pick up my SR9C today and it was already sold so another was ordered and this time I put the money down.  While I was that a guy that does the CCDW class for 150.00 was in the store seems like a good guy he has been emailing be back and forth answering any and all of my questions https://sites.google.com/site/firststatefirearmstraining/home  he only does classes on sundays.  I will be using him I appreciated his forwardness during our conversations.  I have to respect a man that can say what is on his mind and do it respectfully.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: del elec on May 01, 2015, 11:28:49 PM
That's who I used for my class. They did a great job.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on May 02, 2015, 12:19:01 AM
That's who I used for my class. They did a great job.

Had one guy tell me that they charge so little for the class because they don't cover everything that you need to know.  I was like wow really thats not cool bashing people like that this company must have been desperate for the money or something.  Told them what I thought about that and hung up the phone. 
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Zallith on May 05, 2015, 02:00:48 PM
Dave is good people, the class is plenty through on the things you need to know. However I advise anyone who carries to take a more combat oriented class after they get their permit.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on May 21, 2015, 12:22:27 AM
One of the things I have heard is if you have not known or have not been in the state for longer then 5 years that you need to release the DMV records from your previous state.  I have looked all over the laws and do not see anything in there about that.  Has anyone heard of this being needed to be done?
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: oldgraygeek on May 21, 2015, 12:44:47 AM
I moved to Delaware in 2002, and I got my first CCDW permit in 2005. Didn't need to do so at the time.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: ChrisCar on May 21, 2015, 12:47:55 AM
I lived in DE for only 10 months when I submitted my application (which is still pending).   I also was told that I should submit a certified copy of my driver's abstract (which I did).   The person who told me is an investigator at the AG's office who processes applications, so I figured it was pretty reliable.  He didn't say anything about a 5-year limit though. 
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on May 21, 2015, 02:23:51 AM
There was definitely a lot of info that day in class way more then I ever expected to get.  I do want to take some advanced classes and a day at the range with a more experienced shooter to help with some shooting accuracy.  Shame that shooting is a perishable skill I was and expert marksman in the army.  I think I am squeezing the gun when i press the trigger causing it to drop down when I am firing.  Not sure if it's the sights or just me most likely me. 
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Adrenolin on May 24, 2015, 08:03:04 AM
One of the things I have heard is if you have not known or have not been in the state for longer then 5 years that you need to release the DMV records from your previous state.  I have looked all over the laws and do not see anything in there about that.  Has anyone heard of this being needed to be done?

Its not a law but the investigators do request it. My wife and I both received calls requesting that we get and submit the abstract.

*** Could one of the mods possibly amend the Delaware CCW Process (http://deccw.com/index.php?topic=7.0) thread with this need for an abstract for new to the state applicants? *** I know its not legally required however the investigators do request this more often then not.

We also took the course at First State Firearms and everything that's legally required is taught. Too many people push that you need to take one of the advanced classes. While they may contain additional information they usually also cost more and take longer. One thing for sure, even the basic CCDW class they teach leaves one with a whole lot more information then one expects going in. I've sent a few folks since my class to them and continue to recommend First State Firearms.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: rikwick on May 24, 2015, 08:48:00 PM
My training class was also First State, It was the cheapest around.  I did my training before I submitted the application.  That way it was all done at once with no delay.   Anyone been through their NRA First Steps Pistol Orientation class? They also have coming up an Advanced Conceal Carry course too.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on June 03, 2015, 09:10:10 PM
I lived in DE for only 10 months when I submitted my application (which is still pending).   I also was told that I should submit a certified copy of my driver's abstract (which I did).   The person who told me is an investigator at the AG's office who processes applications, so I figured it was pretty reliable.  He didn't say anything about a 5-year limit though. 

How did you acquire these documents?  All the forms I am finding are telling me to put my license number in well the problem with that is DE takes your old ID so no number to put in that place.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: ChrisCar on June 04, 2015, 01:55:58 AM

How did you acquire these documents?  All the forms I am finding are telling me to put my license number in well the problem with that is DE takes your old ID so no number to put in that place.

I don't know what state you would need, but I think you're correct that most of them are going to require your number.  My former state was New Jersey.  If that's yours also, you can request an abstract at this website:  http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/driver_history_page.htm
But they definitely require your D/L number.  Fortunately, I had mine memorized. 

You might be able to call the DMV in your old state and see if they'll give it to you over the phone.  They might not due to security reasons.  In that case, I guess you'd probably have to go in person.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on June 04, 2015, 02:16:17 AM

How did you acquire these documents?  All the forms I am finding are telling me to put my license number in well the problem with that is DE takes your old ID so no number to put in that place.

I don't know what state you would need, but I think you're correct that most of them are going to require your number.  My former state was New Jersey.  If that's yours also, you can request an abstract at this website:  http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/driver_history_page.htm
But they definitely require your D/L number.  Fortunately, I had mine memorized. 

You might be able to call the DMV in your old state and see if they'll give it to you over the phone.  They might not due to security reasons.  In that case, I guess you'd probably have to go in person.

I used to live in MD
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: Radnor on June 04, 2015, 11:45:12 AM
My training class was also First State, It was the cheapest around.  I did my training before I submitted the application.  That way it was all done at once with no delay.   Anyone been through their NRA First Steps Pistol Orientation class? They also have coming up an Advanced Conceal Carry course too.

Why take it, unless you want the certificate for another card.  NRA 1st steps is action specific and a minimum of 3 hours.  It covers 2/3 of the requirements you "should" have already completed for your CCDW.  We use the full course for our classes. 

I only use 1st steps at scout camp.
Title: Re: Training Class
Post by: 29thInfantry on June 05, 2015, 02:14:58 PM

How did you acquire these documents?  All the forms I am finding are telling me to put my license number in well the problem with that is DE takes your old ID so no number to put in that place.

I don't know what state you would need, but I think you're correct that most of them are going to require your number.  My former state was New Jersey.  If that's yours also, you can request an abstract at this website:  http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/driver_history_page.htm
But they definitely require your D/L number.  Fortunately, I had mine memorized. 

You might be able to call the DMV in your old state and see if they'll give it to you over the phone.  They might not due to security reasons.  In that case, I guess you'd probably have to go in person.

Did you give them the full report or just the last 3 years?