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CCW Methods & Issues => New CCW Permit Holders => Topic started by: GLOCK23 on March 18, 2009, 02:04:34 AM

Title: pa really fast
Post by: GLOCK23 on March 18, 2009, 02:04:34 AM
hey guys...i mailed my pa non resident last week Tuesday and i called them to see if they received my application and they told me they sent out the permit yesterday, i should get it tomorrow,,,,,sweet,,
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 18, 2009, 09:38:20 AM
Yea it only takes about a week
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GLOCK23 on March 20, 2009, 12:50:41 PM
hey guys got my pa non resident yesterday ,,,went to kinkos and re-size and laminate it,,fit nice in my wallet ,,fits way better than Delaware's permit
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on March 20, 2009, 02:57:06 PM
hey guys got my pa non resident yesterday ,,,went to kinkos and re-size and laminate it,,fit nice in my wallet ,,fits way better than Delaware's permit
For some reason, the quality of the PA permit has deteriorated more than the DE permit has.  I’ve seen PA go from a solid laminated version that included your photo, to a poster-sized piece of thin paper that actually includes some white-out tape on it.  The DE permit has also been dippin’ into the weight-gain, and has grown slightly in size.  This probably doesn’t seem like a big deal, but I specifically look for wallets that allow immediate access to such documents, without bein’ laid-out for the Home Depot girl to see when she’s checkin’ my ID for the credit card.  Anything to lessen the amount of time spent prone, with guns pointed at me.  At least these things are not the index-card-sized thingie that FL issues.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GunEnvy on March 21, 2009, 09:53:07 AM
It amazes me that instead of using the state of the art ID machines that have cost god knows how much they resort to having a couple high school kids make the permits. I've had to reseal my DE permit several times just to keep it from falling apart.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 29, 2009, 12:04:44 AM
Yea I wish they would at the least make them a little more smaller to fit in my wallet.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on March 29, 2009, 02:25:37 AM
Yea I wish they would at the least make them a little more smaller to fit in my wallet.
As was previously mentioned by Glock23, you can always shrink that puppy down and laminate it.  I believe that’s what PA used to do.  I wound up shrinking mine to 64%, and laminated it myself.  I even thought about throwing a picture in there – but I got lazy.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 29, 2009, 09:19:46 AM
I was refering to the delaware permit. What I did wirh my PA permit was folded it and put it in a penney baseball card sleve.
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Post by: GunEnvy on March 29, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
got a question corbon, Have you checked with PA to see if shrinkng the permit "voids" its legallity? I mean if you shrink it and carry the smaller version it is no longer the acctual permit and will the police recognize it as a permit. I'm not trying to argue you with you but if they don't have a problem with it I will do it also. It's a great idea and I never even thought of doing that.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on March 29, 2009, 04:17:04 PM
got a question corbon, Have you checked with PA to see if shrinkng the permit "voids" its legallity? I mean if you shrink it and carry the smaller version it is no longer the acctual permit and will the police recognize it as a permit. I'm not trying to argue you with you but if they don't have a problem with it I will do it also. It's a great idea and I never even thought of doing that.
I wondered about that, too, but here’s my thoughts.  As stated previously, my first PA permit was laminated, included a photo, and was stamped on the back that it was “A TRUE AND ATTESTED COPY,” and it was signed by the sheriff.  It looked “official.”  Next, the photo and the stamping went away.  Now, the lamination went away.  This thing honestly looks worse than something that WE could make up on the computer.  Your real “permit” is the number in the corner. There’d be a better case that you need the actual paper they sent to you if it included some kind of official seal, or your photo.  But since it doesn’t take on the role of identification, I’m hard-pressed to think that it matters.  Plus, it’s highly doubtful that any LEO is actually going to know the current dimensions of these things, as I truly believe the reason that they didn’t shrink and laminate this puppy was just to save a dollar or so.  And, as I said before, my “real” copy literally has white correction tape on it – so that doesn’t look too good.

So, that may not be a direct answer to your question – but that’s my way of thinkin’.         
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on March 29, 2009, 04:33:08 PM
I was told Lancaster Co still issues cards and I'm wondering if I can take my Centre County Permit and get a new Lancaster Co Permit?
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on March 29, 2009, 04:38:09 PM
SigP250:  "I was refering to the delaware permit. What I did wirh my PA permit was folded it and put it in a penney baseball card sleve."

Havin' a problem with the quote feature working on this particular message.  I did that with the PA permit, too, but it still seemed like I was carrying around a KISS poster in my wallet.  So, that’s when I did the shrink-a-roo thingie.  As far as the DE permit, the card itself is so big that trimming it won’t even help.  I did find a spot in my wallet for it, but it is more “hidden” than what I would like.  Where the previous versions were kept in my wallet, it was much easier to give directions to someone else so that they could find it.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on March 29, 2009, 04:42:23 PM
I was told Lancaster Co still issues cards and I'm wondering if I can take my Centre County Permit and get a new Lancaster Co Permit?
I'd have gladly paid $5 more if that's what they needed to give me "real" ID.  Especially considering how much cheaper PA is than DE.

Hey, when people complain that DE taxes are “too low,” and cite our neighboring states as examples, should we complain that DE permit costs are “too high” – and cite PA?     
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GunEnvy on March 29, 2009, 05:23:58 PM
Good answer Corbon, I was just curious cause I like the idea but also don't wanna get hung up somehow, while PA is much kinder to us gun toters than other states, it's better safe than sorry. On Monday I'll call the Centre County courthouse and see if I can find out from them for sure.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on March 29, 2009, 07:38:01 PM
On Monday I'll call the Centre County courthouse and see if I can find out from them for sure.
When I sent in my last signed renewal form, I sent Denny Nau a “thank you” note for having such a fine working department.  Really, they send you a reminder, AND get that thing done immediately.  York County was actually pretty good, too (but not as good), until they stopped doing the non-res stuff.  That was back when they’d take your photo and print up the ID – while you stood there and waited.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on April 01, 2009, 11:22:42 PM
Gunenvy any word from Centre Co?
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GunEnvy on April 02, 2009, 12:38:30 AM
@@@@ I got busy and forgot to call, will do on thursday
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GunEnvy on April 02, 2009, 08:23:11 PM
I called up to Centre County today and spoke to a waoman named Cheryl. Very nice lady but I fely like an genius after I called. I started to mention that my nonresident permit was beginning to tatter quite a bit. She sort of interupted me (nicely) and asked if I had a photo copier. (LMAO) I asked if I could shrink it down and laminate it and she said that yes that can be done.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on April 02, 2009, 09:44:54 PM
Cool, now we know
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on April 02, 2009, 11:48:14 PM
I called up to Centre County today and spoke to a waoman named Cheryl. Very nice lady but I fely like an genius after I called. I started to mention that my nonresident permit was beginning to tatter quite a bit. She sort of interupted me (nicely) and asked if I had a photo copier. (LMAO) I asked if I could shrink it down and laminate it and she said that yes that can be done.
Good deal.  So, that's one less law that we're breakin'...
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GunEnvy on April 03, 2009, 12:09:16 AM
Corbon, When you said it, it made sense to me but I get paranoid when it comes to the laws. I did mine today at work and it really helps.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on April 03, 2009, 01:29:35 AM
Corbon, When you said it, it made sense to me but I get paranoid when it comes to the laws. I did mine today at work and it really helps.
Well, I certainly didn’t take any offense.  And, being paranoid can be a good thing, as paranoia can be a teaching tool.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Moosie on April 03, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
Ok, brilliant question time...   

where in the heck are you guys laminating your shrunken permits?!  I'm anticipating having to do this when I get mine, and just wondered why the system is so defunct it can't just issue something like our drivers license that isn't laminated.  I'd be willing to pay more for something like that! 

Moosie~
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: GunEnvy on April 03, 2009, 08:35:06 PM
I have a laminator at work but I think staples will do it also.
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: CorBon on April 03, 2009, 11:59:54 PM
Ok, brilliant question time...   

where in the heck are you guys laminating your shrunken permits?!
If you don’t have a laminator (and some of the small ones are fairly inexpensive), you have three choices.  First, go to a copy shop (Kinko’s, Office Max/Depot, Staples, etc.) and pay a couple of bucks.  Second, they sell no-heat sleeves that you can slide these things into – where they basically glue themselves together.  And third (just to demonstrate how cheap I am on some of this stuff), you can buy the heat-seal sleeves and (are ya ready?) get out the iron and a towel.  Heat up the iron, place the sleeve with the ID in it down on the table/ironing board, and lay the towel over it.  And, yes, IRON your laminated sleeve on.  Hey, it works.   
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: plasticman on April 11, 2009, 01:40:23 AM
Funny, I just got mine. I laughed my head off when I saw it. First of all, the @@@@ thing was the size of a paper back book. Second of all it looked like a 3 year old put it together. For the money I spent and the hassle that I went thru to get it, I was expecting a little more quality. I guess, just getting it is a blessing in this liberal state  :o
Title: Re: pa really fast
Post by: Sigarms12 on April 11, 2009, 10:37:49 AM
I would have thought they would make it harder to duplicate guess I was wrong