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State News & Gun News => Delaware News => Topic started by: Just Bill on February 15, 2017, 10:57:25 PM

Title: DE recognition???
Post by: Just Bill on February 15, 2017, 10:57:25 PM
I just saw something on another website that DE will no longer recognize any other state permit, effective Sept, this year???????????????  That means other states will reciprocate.  Anyone?????

Bill T
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Adrenolin on February 15, 2017, 11:16:51 PM
Yeah I just noticed a post from First State Firearms Training stating the same and linking to http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml however there is no mention about it on that page.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: NormH3 on February 15, 2017, 11:55:03 PM
Delaware will only cease to acknowledge nonresident -permits of other states listed.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: oldgraygeek on February 16, 2017, 12:42:03 AM
Delaware will only cease to acknowledge nonresident -permits of other states listed.

This is a very useful clarification.
If true, every PA resident who carries here with a Florida or Utah permit will be SOL...
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Federal Firearm on February 16, 2017, 01:47:58 AM
Delaware will only cease to acknowledge nonresident -permits of other states listed.

This is a very useful clarification.
If true, every PA resident who carries here with a Florida or Utah permit will be SOL...

that is correct..applies to nonresident out of state permits..
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Clarence on February 16, 2017, 10:13:58 AM
I can not find this on the link to the AG website.  I don't see anything in the law that would allow them to disallow a reciprocal state permit because the person is a non resident. 

Any lawyers out there?  This is serious because innocent people will be jailed because of this if it stands.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Radnor on February 16, 2017, 12:03:12 PM
Marc & I have been discussing this via email.  There is one case from I think 1980s which would make it true.
It was on the web site yesterday (2/15).  Today it's gone?  Was going to post it here and in the sticky.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: NormH3 on February 16, 2017, 12:12:24 PM
More info...

https://blog.princelaw.com/2017/02/15/delaware-changes-concealed-weapons-agreements-not-for-the-better/
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Etrier on February 16, 2017, 12:46:59 PM
I saw the same statement on the AG's webpage yesterday morning but when I sat down to write about it here last night the web page had been changed and the statement about not accepting other states permits as of September 2017 had been removed.  Wondering if the announcement got pulled because it might have an effect on the SD 10 special election.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: NormH3 on February 16, 2017, 01:00:56 PM
I saw the same statement on the AG's webpage yesterday morning but when I sat down to write about it here last night the web page had been changed and the statement about not accepting other states permits as of September 2017 had been removed.  Wondering if the announcement got pulled because it might have an effect on the SD 10 special election.

Personally I think it got pulled because it got more responses than they figured. Secondly, they hadn't made an announcement on the news release section yet. I wonder if it was put up "prematurely" by a over zealous employee.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Just Bill on February 16, 2017, 05:47:21 PM
So who made the decision to change the agreements, the new guv or denn??  Doesn't stuff like that require legislature??
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: MarcWinkman on February 16, 2017, 06:32:49 PM
Before we all go the way of lemmings over the edge of a cliff, sit tight.  I just put an e-mail through to the DOJ to get a definitive answer as to what reciprocity status as to non-resident CCDW permits is/will be on the date in question.  For what it's worth, I've heard some conflicting things from a few of the junior deputies to date.  The e-mail I just sent was to a department head. 
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Fishhunter911 on February 16, 2017, 06:35:31 PM
Before we all go the way of lemmings over the edge of a cliff, sit tight.  I just put an e-mail through to the DOJ to get a definitive answer as to what reciprocity status as to non-resident CCDW permits is/will be on the date in question.  For what it's worth, I've heard some conflicting things from a few of the junior deputies to date.  The e-mail I just sent was to a department head. 

Thank you Marc.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: NormH3 on February 16, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
Updated...they backpedaled a bit because of the way Delaware law is written.

http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml

Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Clarence on February 16, 2017, 09:45:39 PM
Interesting that they appologized for the notice.  Never saw that before.  Looks like this was put up by an unauthorized person or they realized it was not legal.

http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml

I guess a lot of PA and Maryland residents are breathing a sigh of relief.

Eternal vigilance.......
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: MarcWinkman on February 16, 2017, 10:19:49 PM
Just got a response to the e-mail I sent over.  The current state of the website as it appears is what anyone looking for reciprocity information should refer to.  Anything previously posted by since removed should be discounted. 

Those are the words straight from the horse's mouth.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 16, 2017, 11:12:56 PM
From DE AG’s Website:

"As of September 23, 2017 Delaware will no longer honor Non-Resident Concealed Carry Permits issued by any jurisdiction." (emphasis mine)

This seems to be a growing trend.
    Regards!
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: del elec on February 17, 2017, 04:45:43 PM
https://blog.princelaw.com/2017/02/17/delaware-backpedals-on-concealed-carry-changes/
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Obleo on February 17, 2017, 07:57:42 PM
If not for this forum I would not have known this conversation was happening.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: ChrisCar on February 19, 2017, 01:12:03 AM
From DE AG’s Website:

"As of September 23, 2017 Delaware will no longer honor Non-Resident Concealed Carry Permits issued by any jurisdiction." (emphasis mine)

Sturm, can you please post the link for the site where you got this language?  When I look at the AG's site (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml)) I do not see what you quoted.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: NormH3 on February 19, 2017, 12:32:33 PM
From DE AG’s Website:

"As of September 23, 2017 Delaware will no longer honor Non-Resident Concealed Carry Permits issued by any jurisdiction." (emphasis mine)

Sturm, can you please post the link for the site where you got this language?  When I look at the AG's site (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml)) I do not see what you quoted.  Thanks.  

This was the original posting on the AG site. It has since been removed and replaced.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 19, 2017, 01:11:40 PM
https://blog.princelaw.com/2017/02/15/delaware-changes-concealed-weapons-agreements-not-for-the-better/

as this and other websites show the AG's office deleted the original post and backpedaled on this issue.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: MarcWinkman on February 20, 2017, 01:33:19 PM
Also worth note, I found out from a number of deputies that the phone number that was listed on the original controversy causing post went to a law clerk not to a deputy or investigator. 
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: Packing_Nine on November 18, 2019, 07:35:27 PM
Sorry to dig up such an old thread... I know a colleague who is a resident of Pennsylvania. This individual is seeking a Utah or Florida permit to legally carry concealed in our state of Delaware. What's the final word on this matter? The https://blog.princelaw.com/ article is still posted, and the https://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/ site does not explicitly state one way or another whether Delaware honors both resident and non-resident permits from the 21 reciprocal states.
Title: Re: DE recognition???
Post by: RLS on November 18, 2019, 08:25:37 PM
A PA resident is legal to carry in Delaware with a Utah or Florida permit.

A Delaware resident is not legal to carry on an out of state permit in Delaware.


Rick