Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => CCW Equipment => Topic started by: SweetPete on March 02, 2017, 04:52:34 PM
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For the holsters that are leather with Kydex/polymer attached, do you notice the lessening of retention/retainment when the leather breaks in? My Supertuck seems to be losing its "snap" when holstered. Just curious.
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I have used a supertuck for about 5years and it MAY be losing some of its snap . Although I never noticed it until you mentioned it . Maybe such a slow change that I never caught it? I still trust its retention capability .
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The leather stretches but the Kydex doesn't. this causes the holster's gun retention to loosen.
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Obviously, but has anyone felt the need to replace this type of holster due to the integrity of the leather's retention after extended wear? I've had my Supertuck for years and love it (!!!), but am considering a double sided Kydex/poly on leather. Any recommendations? Again, just curious. I'm in search of a firm grip retention IWB holster, 0-1 lvl retention for compact Glock and M&P Shield.
BTW, I thought this article could be informative to the new guys as well as the experienced.
http://gundigest.com/concealed-carry/understanding-holster-retention (http://gundigest.com/concealed-carry/understanding-holster-retention)
Thanks for all input everyone!
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Holsters that have a Kydex front panel and a leather rear panel can be adjusted to increase the retention if you are not satisfied with it's current level of retention with the application a little heat and pressure. I would not suggest that the average Joe try to modify the retention since a little too much heat can potentially flatten the molded Kydex before you know it is going to happen or too much of a change within the trigger guard could cause the holster to engage (depress) the trigger when the firearm is holstered. PM me if anyone would like assistance with their retention issues.
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You are correct on this Etrier. I believe that Crossbreed has a vid on their website doing a demo on this. I think they also describe this procedure in a document that comes with there product. Regards to all and stay safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPLLddM6Z5o Here is the vid produced by Crossbreed. Hope this is useful to everyone.
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My Comp-Tac MTAC (http://www.comp-tac.com/mtac-holster-10225) leather backed Kydex front shell has been worn for pretty close to 3 years, almost, daily now. When purchased I put a drop of blue LocTite on the bench and used a modeling brush to put a very thin layer on each of the 4 fine thread screws. I set my preferred retention at this time and marked the screwhead position to the Kydex. In 3 years the screws haven't moved. The double layered leather backing has formed slightly but the set retention remains the same to this day.
Something to remember. Leather backed with Kydex shells do NOT require a super tight retention by themselves since they are designed to also use the belts retention as well. For example.. If I hold my MTAC with my Classic Walther PPQ (cleared and unloaded) upside down the PPQ will NOT fall out. If I give it a light shake it still doesn't fall out either. However, if I give it a slightly stronger shake (think shaking a ketchup bottle a bit due to the running separated liquid on top) the PPQ WILL in fact drop out. Once it is secured in my pants with the belt I can literally do flips on the trampoline and cartwheels on the lawn and it'll NOT fall out.
When I insert my PPQ into the MTAC there is just the slightest click of the detent in the Kydex slipping over the guard. I feel it more then hear it.
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This isn't uncommon. I'd say that these types of holsters don't need to be replaced with a little leather stretch unless the leather is completely cracked and worn. If you're looking for a great comfortable IWB holster option, I can't recommend the Blackpoint Tactical Mini Wing highly enough. I have one each for my Sig P226, P229, and Walther PPS.
Here's my PPS in the Mini Wing
(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj250/mwink822/IMG_1472.jpg) (http://s274.photobucket.com/user/mwink822/media/IMG_1472.jpg.html)