Delaware Concealed Carry Forum
CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: topper on July 04, 2017, 02:57:10 AM
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I just read the following on handgunlaw.us. Does anyone know if DE or PA is supplying this info?
Notice: Maryland has a unit called, “Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center.” They have license plate reader cameras around the state that read license plates of vehicles. Some are connected to Criminal Background Check programs and Permit/License Holder lists from the different states that will supply them with that information. Do use caution when even driving through Maryland. They can know if you have a firearms permit/license without even stopping you. Other States most likely have a similar system.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry-1.pdf
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I can find no creditable source that actually says that any such data base of conceal carry licencing exists let alone that it is connected with any other source. Hopefully someone else will have better information on this. As long as you have the firearm and ammo stored by the federal law you should have no problem should you be stopped. You do not have a duty to inform in MD unless asked.
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I can find no creditable source that actually says that any such data base of conceal carry licencing exists let alone that it is connected with any other source.
Well, as some jurisdictions tie the driving privilege card with the carry permit -- it's very possible. It's very rare, but still possible. That being said -- there's nothing really stopping them from connecting whatever databases that they want to connect.
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According to this article, Delaware still does not release names and info on permit holders per the Freedom of Information Act.:
Disclosure or Use of Information
Every law enforcement officer of the state and of any political subdivision must transmit to the Delaware State Bureau of Identification (SBI) the fingerprints, photographs and other data prescribed by SBI’s Director for all individuals applying for a permit to carry concealed deadly weapons.13 Records which disclose the identity or address of any person holding a permit to carry a concealed deadly weapon are not considered public records under Delaware’s Freedom of Information Act, and thus are not generally subject to public disclosure.14 All records relating to concealed deadly weapon permits shall be available to bona fide law-enforcement officers, however.15
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Yes, Delaware has license scanners, but as far as I know, they only check for criminal warrants. I doubt that CCDW info is even available.
BT
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From the DE AG website (http://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealed-carry-deadly-weapons-ccdw/) under Concealed Weapons Reciprocity
Law enforcement officials from other jurisdictions can verify Delaware CCDW permits by contacting the Delaware State Police Headquarters on a 24/7 basis via NLET.AM directed to DEDSP0000 or by calling 302-659-2341.
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Yeah, I just don't go to Maryland if I can help it. If I do go, I tend to leave the house sans gun because odds are I'll be staying down there a bit.
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According to this article, Delaware still does not release names and info on permit holders per the Freedom of Information Act.:
Disclosure or Use of Information
Every law enforcement officer of the state and of any political subdivision must transmit to the Delaware State Bureau of Identification (SBI) the fingerprints, photographs and other data prescribed by SBI’s Director for all individuals applying for a permit to carry concealed deadly weapons.13 Records which disclose the identity or address of any person holding a permit to carry a concealed deadly weapon are not considered public records under Delaware’s Freedom of Information Act, and thus are not generally subject to public disclosure.14 All records relating to concealed deadly weapon permits shall be available to bona fide law-enforcement officers, however.15
Just had to point out that while the information on a DE permit holder is/may NOT considered a public record, in order to apply and receive said permit, that information must be broadcast via the local newspaper. So you have to tell everyone but no one can know..................
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Just had to point out that while the information on a DE permit holder is/may NOT considered a public record, in order to apply and receive said permit, that information must be broadcast via the local newspaper. So you have to tell everyone but no one can know..................
however, if the newspaper doesn't post your notice to an internet archive, the physical evidence disappears when the birdcage is cleaned out or the fish is wrapped.
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Is it just me? Or has the federal government been sneaking up on each of us for some time now? No doubt in my mind the feds have lists. I'll bet it all that the last administration, and states like NY, have data that details most all gun ownership. I wonder if we'll see a whistle blower drop a dime on this, or Wikileaks.
For some time now DOD wants to know which employees engage is high risk activities, such as hunting and gun ownership. Is it me?
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Is it just me? Or has the federal government been sneaking up on each of us for some time now? No doubt in my mind the feds have lists.
Well, since Delaware accidentally blew their own whistle when they denied that women from getting a firearm because she had never purchased one before -- based on their records -- we'd have to be total idiots to believe that they aren't keeping records from things like NICS checks, browsing histories, and whatever else they can figure out.
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Well, since Delaware accidentally blew their own whistle when they denied that women from getting a firearm because she had never purchased one before
That doesn't even sound right. The only thing to prevent her from buying a gun was the FFL check at the place of purchase. Must be more to this than meets the eye. What was the source of this statement. Was it in a newspaper, magazine, or on TV. As long as she was of legal age and no prior infractions, there is no reason she would be denied. "Because she had never purchased one before" is not a ligitement reason for denial. Something smells.
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Well, since Delaware accidentally blew their own whistle when they denied that women from getting a firearm because she had never purchased one before
That doesn't even sound right. The only thing to prevent her from buying a gun was the FFL check at the place of purchase. Must be more to this than meets the eye. What was the source of this statement. Was it in a newspaper, magazine, or on TV. As long as she was of legal age and no prior infractions, there is no reason she would be denied. "Because she had never purchased one before" is not a ligitement reason for denial. Something smells.
I tend to make up a lot of things, mostly because of the excessive peyote usage -- but this was in TNJ several years ago. I believe that it had a couple of articles associated with it, which fleshed-out a few of the sordid details. I can't find anything with TNJ, but our friends to the north had the following (but I couldn't get TNJ's link to the article to actually work):
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=36537
I live in the State of Delaware. An 81-year old woman tried to buy a .22 pistol and was denied by the Delaware State Police. Her hang-up uncovered some unethical and illegal practices governing gun purchases by the Delaware State Police.
According to MacLeish [Delaware State Police Superintendent] , the transaction was halted over concerns "based upon age and gender."
As to whether age and gender are included in the state statute as legitimate reasons to reject a firearms purchase, MacLeish stated, "No, they are not."
That's not the only thing that prompted me to post this:
Lawson [Retired DSP] said Nefosky [Current DSP Firearms Approval Unit] told him he searched seven years of firearms transaction records to see if Vansickle [81-yr old] had ever bought a gun before.
In an interview with The News Journal, MacLeish claimed all paper firearms records are destroyed every 60 days.
The electronic records, however, are another story.
Lawson also knew the gun records should have been destroyed.
MacLeish would not allow Nefosky to be interviewed.
You can see the full article here:
http://www.delawareonline.com/articl...0280392/0/NEWS
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Well, since Delaware accidentally blew their own whistle when they denied that women from getting a firearm because she had never purchased one before
That doesn't even sound right. The only thing to prevent her from buying a gun was the FFL check at the place of purchase. Must be more to this than meets the eye. What was the source of this statement. Was it in a newspaper, magazine, or on TV. As long as she was of legal age and no prior infractions, there is no reason she would be denied. "Because she had never purchased one before" is not a ligitement reason for denial. Something smells.
I tend to make up a lot of things, mostly because of the excessive peyote usage -- but this was in TNJ several years ago. I believe that it had a couple of articles associated with it, which fleshed-out a few of the sordid details. I can't find anything with TNJ, but our friends to the north had the following (but I couldn't get TNJ's link to the article to actually work):
http://forum.pafoa.org/showthread.php?t=36537
I live in the State of Delaware. An 81-year old woman tried to buy a .22 pistol and was denied by the Delaware State Police. Her hang-up uncovered some unethical and illegal practices governing gun purchases by the Delaware State Police.
According to MacLeish [Delaware State Police Superintendent] , the transaction was halted over concerns "based upon age and gender."
As to whether age and gender are included in the state statute as legitimate reasons to reject a firearms purchase, MacLeish stated, "No, they are not."
That's not the only thing that prompted me to post this:
Lawson [Retired DSP] said Nefosky [Current DSP Firearms Approval Unit] told him he searched seven years of firearms transaction records to see if Vansickle [81-yr old] had ever bought a gun before.
In an interview with The News Journal, MacLeish claimed all paper firearms records are destroyed every 60 days.
The electronic records, however, are another story.
Lawson also knew the gun records should have been destroyed.
MacLeish would not allow Nefosky to be interviewed.
You can see the full article here:
http://www.delawareonline.com/articl...0280392/0/NEWS
The link to Delaware Online doesn't seem to work.
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Well, since Delaware accidentally blew their own whistle when they denied that women from getting a firearm because she had never purchased one before
That doesn't even sound right. The only thing to prevent her from buying a gun was the FFL check at the place of purchase. Must be more to this than meets the eye. What was the source of this statement. Was it in a newspaper, magazine, or on TV. As long as she was of legal age and no prior infractions, there is no reason she would be denied. "Because she had never purchased one before" is not a ligitement reason for denial. Something smells.
I tend to make up a lot of things, mostly because of the excessive peyote usage -- but this was in TNJ several years ago. I believe that it had a couple of articles associated with it, which fleshed-out a few of the sordid details. I can't find anything with TNJ, but our friends to the north had the following (but I couldn't get TNJ's link to the article to actually work):
The link to Delaware Online doesn't seem to work.
As stated in my post ...
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I googled a quote from your quote and found quite a bit about this. Seems to have raised hackles everywhere.
From the top of the list:
https://www.gunowners.org/oped102808.htm
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