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General Gun Discussion => Ammunition and Re-Loading => Topic started by: FreakShow on November 20, 2017, 06:39:55 PM

Title: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: FreakShow on November 20, 2017, 06:39:55 PM
What's your preferred 9mm carry ammo.
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Post by: PPScarry on November 20, 2017, 06:50:41 PM
Sig Sauer Elite Performance.
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Post by: FreakShow on November 20, 2017, 07:54:01 PM
the look nasty. i read a good review on them as well. but only 20 to a box, huh.
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Post by: lynch on November 20, 2017, 09:05:34 PM
Hornady Critical Defense. They come in boxes of 25.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWMo9GFrws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWMo9GFrws)
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Post by: seniorgeek on November 20, 2017, 10:02:55 PM
Hornady Critical Defense. They come in boxes of 25.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWMo9GFrws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWMo9GFrws)

Totally agree.
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Post by: Trapper on November 20, 2017, 11:52:57 PM
Speer Gold Dot.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/speer/50-round-box-9mm-luger-speer-gold-dot-115-grain-hollow-point-le-ammo-53614
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: FreakShow on November 21, 2017, 12:00:12 AM
Hornady Critical Defense. They come in boxes of 25.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWMo9GFrws (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiWMo9GFrws)

cool video, thanks
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Post by: greymas on November 21, 2017, 02:34:10 AM
critical defense and critical duty.
Lucky gunner has a great chart showing test results for various brands.

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm  (https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#9mm)

Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: FreakShow on November 21, 2017, 11:42:55 AM
Here's my question, i'm guessing they are using ballistic gel to test the depth. With a round that has a longer depth, will that have a better chance of passing right through the body. Wouldn't you want something that is gonna stay in and tear sh*t up. I see some of these hollow points have plastic in the tip to keep it from clogging once it enters the body. But i would think you want the tip to break up in order to do more damage. Can someone please explain to me if i'm wrong on my thinking
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Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on November 21, 2017, 02:08:14 PM
I carry 9MM hollow points. I only use round nose for target shooting. It was believed long ago that using round nose ment you were more likely (in a self defense situation) to have a "thru and thru" shot that does not kill the target person, but allows them to keep firing at you, causing you possible injury or death yourself.
I use several different brands. My SR9 isn't choosie, will shoot most any kind.

Any Comments on this?
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Post by: 563jack on November 24, 2017, 10:20:14 PM
My EDC is a Beretta Nano 9mm single stack. 6 in the mag 1 in the tube. My preferred ammo is Hornady 147 gr XTP HP and DRT fragmenting 85 gr HP. I alternate the Hornady with the DRT. I purchase a 25 pack per year each and I run the ammo through my Nano 2 to 3 times per year. Just to make sure it works ok.
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Post by: RetCapt1994 on November 24, 2017, 10:47:47 PM
Federal HST 147gr. Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P and Hornady Critical Defense.
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: Just Bill on November 25, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
Different manufacturers generally offer the same thing, for the most part.  For defense, you are usually talking less than 15' from your target, so you want a bullet that will knock the subject down,(heavy bullet), and one that won't go thru with the potential for bad effects on the other side.  So a frangible or heavy spreading hollow point.  And it must work in your gun, which is the most important.  Not all guns will feed all ammo, test it.  For best results, practice with what you carry.  Don't practice with light target loads and then get surprised by the power of that defense load.  It may be expensive, if you don't reload, but there will be no surprises to you,  if the time comes.
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Post by: hap_hazzard on November 25, 2017, 03:15:27 PM
9mm Hornady Critical Defense though I am considering

https://underwoodammo.com/product/handgun-ammo/9mm-luger-65-grain-xtreme-defender/

Thoughts/input on the underwood are welcomed and appreciated.
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Post by: PPScarry on November 27, 2017, 07:11:50 PM
I'm with you Bill. I tried my carry ammo at the range and it worked. It fed the ammo and ejected it so I was happy. I'm sure it will perform. That is the most important thing.
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Post by: 563jack on November 28, 2017, 07:52:29 PM
Hey Hap, I did a little looking around on those underwood defense round and they appear to be great when you want to go thru a hard substance like a car door, windshield, plywood. they tend to maintain their shape when they hit things like bone or glass and don't deviate as much as HP after penetrating a hard object. On gel test they seam to be more stable than a HP with a deeper penetration. Overall, I think I'll wait until the FBI, ATF, LEO start using them vs HP. I wonder why we don't see more information of that type of bullet in hunting articles. They sure look like they could cause a lot of damage and aid in stopping a threat.
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: FreakShow on November 29, 2017, 02:27:37 AM
i don't want anything to retain the shape. I what it to break up in to pieces, stopping whatever it is that i'm shooting at keeping it from continuing to come at me
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Post by: Sinker on November 30, 2017, 02:46:14 PM
I also use the Hornady Critical Defense in 9mm, 38 Special +P and 380 ACP, and like others have recommended, I practice with it occasionally.
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Post by: topper on December 01, 2017, 08:17:06 PM
I also use the Hornady Critical Defense in 9mm, 38 Special +P and 380 ACP, and like others have recommended, I practice with it occasionally.

I carry Hornady Critical Defense also. Does anyone know of any Police Depts using Hornady? I'm thinking of how I would explain to a judge why I carry it. I have a friend that carries the same brand that NYPD carries just for that reason.
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: 563jack on December 01, 2017, 11:01:54 PM
Here's a web site that list the top 5 defense rounds used by different police department.
http://www.wideopenspaces.com/the-best-5-self-defense-ammo-for-9mm-used-by-law-enforcement/ (http://www.wideopenspaces.com/the-best-5-self-defense-ammo-for-9mm-used-by-law-enforcement/)
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: topper on December 02, 2017, 02:14:39 AM
Here's a web site that list the top 5 defense rounds used by different police department.
http://www.wideopenspaces.com/the-best-5-self-defense-ammo-for-9mm-used-by-law-enforcement/ (http://www.wideopenspaces.com/the-best-5-self-defense-ammo-for-9mm-used-by-law-enforcement/)

I was looking for specific Police Departments, but this gave me some important info about my pistol and this ammo. I will probably switch now.

Thank you 563jack.
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: Just Bill on December 02, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
I see that none use less than a 124gr bullet......

Bill
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Post by: Federal Firearm on December 08, 2017, 02:50:06 AM
liberty defense and only liberty
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Post by: FreakShow on December 08, 2017, 01:54:11 PM
now i'm gonna have to look that up on your site,lol
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Post by: hap_hazzard on December 09, 2017, 01:16:00 PM
Hey Hap, I did a little looking around on those underwood defense round and they appear to be great when you want to go thru a hard substance like a car door, windshield, plywood. they tend to maintain their shape when they hit things like bone or glass and don't deviate as much as HP after penetrating a hard object. On gel test they seam to be more stable than a HP with a deeper penetration. Overall, I think I'll wait until the FBI, ATF, LEO start using them vs HP. I wonder why we don't see more information of that type of bullet in hunting articles. They sure look like they could cause a lot of damage and aid in stopping a threat.

Yeah, thinking same thing.  That said, this could be the ticket for my LCP 380 :-)
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: PPScarry on December 09, 2017, 04:21:10 PM
Liberty Civil Defense 380 auto makes me feel better having my wife carrying a glock 42, thanks to Chris. Nice pistol by the way. I need to switch up my 9mm ammo for Christmas. My carry ammo is a few years old and I think I will shoot it at the range and replace with Liberty.
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Post by: Federal Firearm on December 10, 2017, 01:05:18 AM
now i'm gonna have to look that up on your site,lol



never on the site...only in the back room  ;D
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: FreakShow on December 11, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
Does Liberty make the same type of round in 9mm
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Post by: PPScarry on December 11, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
yes
Title: Re: Preferred 9mm carry ammo
Post by: FreakShow on December 11, 2017, 12:45:57 PM
guess a trip to federal is coming, lol. that's ok, i always enjoy myself