Delaware Concealed Carry Forum

CCW Methods & Issues => General CCW Discussion => Topic started by: Richie on April 10, 2018, 10:24:03 AM

Title: Gun purchase from a firearm dealer in DE
Post by: Richie on April 10, 2018, 10:24:03 AM

If you have a CCDW permit and are purchasing a new gun from a dealer in DE do you still have to fill out
all the paper work for a background check., or is having the permit enough.

Title: Re: Gun purchase from a firearm dealer in DE
Post by: Packing_Nine on April 10, 2018, 12:46:36 PM

You will still be required to complete a Form 4473 when you purchase a firearm from an FFL, regardless of whether or not you have acquired the license as provided in Delaware Title 11, Section 1441 (license to carry CCDW).

Title: Re: Gun purchase from a firearm dealer in DE
Post by: CorBon on April 10, 2018, 01:13:01 PM

Years ago, it exempted you from the Delaware call, but NOT the Federal call, and not the 4473.  Of course, I guess we could walk this all the way back to pre-Fall ‘68 when you didn’t even need the 4473!

Title: Re: Gun purchase from a firearm dealer in DE
Post by: Cbmarine on April 26, 2018, 08:20:13 PM

Handgunlaw.us has the ATF's Permanent Brady Permit List (https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart) showing which state permits qualify as an alternative to a background check. It doesn't appear to distinguish between resident and non-resident permits.  Ironically HI permits qualify but virtually none exist.  DE & FL do not. However UT & PA do!

Reading further, Permanent Brady State Lists (https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-state-lists) appears to defer the background check to the State.  So maybe if you show a PA LTCF when purchasing in PA that you fill out a PA form instead of the 4473.

Reading even further, the ATFs Open Letter to All PA FFLs (https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/brady-letters-ffls) states that "The Brady law provides that certain permits may qualify as alternatives to a NICS check. However, there are no permits in your State that qualify as an alternative to a NICS check.. So if you have read this far in this post: Dead End.