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State News & Gun News => NRA & National Gun News => Topic started by: SturmRugerSR9 on January 26, 2021, 10:55:49 PM

Title: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on January 26, 2021, 10:55:49 PM
16 (and growing)States either are or have done away with the need for a concealed carry permit in their state:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/26/more-state-lawmakers-seek-to-end-concealed-carry-permit-requirement/
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Just Bill on January 27, 2021, 10:58:58 AM
don't look for that happening in DE.  In fact they may try to take away all rights.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on January 27, 2021, 03:54:40 PM
9 more States considering same in further article today:

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/01/9-states-considering-permitless-concealed-gun-carry-bills/
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on January 27, 2021, 06:15:44 PM
Delaware on the list??   ::)
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on January 27, 2021, 08:50:29 PM
When 49 other states are on board, then Delaware may, I say just may consider it....

Delaware has got to be full of some of the dumbest people in America. They just can't understand that the Democrats are the cause of most of their problems. I seriously believe they think that being a Democrat is in their DNA and they have no choice but to keep doing the same brilliant mistakes over, and over, and over again. Hence the old saying that if you keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different conclusion, you are a fool. It's like trying to dig yourself out of quicksand.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Clarence on January 27, 2021, 08:54:16 PM
I just love listening to the objections to this.  We are at 16 states now.  Vermont NEVER required any type of permit to carry open or concealed.  Since 2003 15 additional states have now dropped the requirement for a permission slip.

In each and every case the anti gun side has raised the specter of blood in the streets, Wild West, OK Corral, ad nauseum.  Irregardless of the fact that this has not happened.   I have even seen some pro gun people oppose this, mostly people associated with the training industry.

This ain’t happening in Delaware but we may see a day when half the nation will be able to carry without having to say “Mother may I?”

Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on January 27, 2021, 09:11:37 PM
Vermont NEVER required any type of permit to carry open or concealed.

Until a few years ago, VT had NO GUN LAWS.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Obleo on January 29, 2021, 02:33:07 PM
Why would Delaware be considering the loss of an easy revenue stream?
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on January 29, 2021, 03:05:13 PM
Taking away you guns and gun rights is the Democrat/Left's agenda. Just like Hitler took weapons away from the Jews.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on January 29, 2021, 10:54:47 PM
Obleo,

Found your way back on the old account.  Welcome back.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Clarence on February 13, 2021, 02:48:08 PM
Utah is now Constitutional Carry.   Montana and Tennessee will soon be as well.  That will make 19.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 15, 2021, 01:44:46 PM
Utah Gov. Signs bill into law :

https://www.theepochtimes.com/utah-governor-signs-bill-allowing-concealed-carry-of-weapon-without-a-permit_3696122.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-14-4
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Clarence on February 19, 2021, 12:08:11 PM
Montana is now the 18th state to go Constitutional Carry.   Usual “sky is falling” scare tactics did not work as governor signed the bill yesterday.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Just Bill on February 19, 2021, 10:54:41 PM
Delaware Legislature would love to do away with permits.  You know the next sentence...
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 19, 2021, 11:22:41 PM
Here's the article:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/18/montana-18th-state-abolish-concealed-carry-permit/
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 24, 2021, 02:35:48 PM
Indiana next to do away with gun licenses:



https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/540021-indiana-house-approves-bill-that-would-eliminate-license-to-carry
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on February 26, 2021, 02:01:34 PM
Next comes Georgia:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/25/georgia-house-weighing-legislation-to-end-concealed-permit-requirement/#
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on February 26, 2021, 07:03:14 PM
Other than reporting what other states are doing, what are YOU doing for OUR state?  Writing any elected officials?  Phone calls?
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Clarence on February 26, 2021, 08:20:02 PM
Called and wrote my senator and representative about the wait times and to make sure they fight like heck the left gun agenda in Delaware.  I put out signs for both in November. 
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on February 26, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
THANK YOU!!!

I've donated time (literature drops and stuffing envelopes) AND money to campaigns that were NOT in my district.
Plus, you see the letters I've written and replies.
Also, met with my guys and officials NOT in my voting district!!! And trained them.
And trips to Dover to make my comments heard in committees.
Bill and I attended the sportsman caucus meeting.

Know OGG has met with his.

Too many of us are sitting ou our A@@es EXPECTING change.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on March 03, 2021, 12:03:19 PM
Eighteen states have abolished their concealed carry permit requirement. Those states are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

Iowa is on the move:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/02/iowa-bill-to-abolish-concealed-permit-requirement-on-the-move/

And Tenn:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/03/03/bill-to-end-concealed-permit-requirement-on-move-in-tn-senate/

This could conceivably bring the number to 20 states.

Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Clarence on March 04, 2021, 12:08:48 PM
If you look at the local news items in these states it is hilarious to read the “sky is falling” scenarios of the opposition even though none of this has happened in the states that have abolished this requirement.   Sad to say some of the opposition comes from our side especially those involved in the CCW training industry.   Just look at Vermont.  Never had such a law.  About the most peaceful state in the union.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on March 04, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
As you know, I offer the CCDW training.  I've never took a position on it either way.

If you've seen some of the people that wanted it, you might change your mind.

Such as.....  Cannot hit the target at 7yds.  Don't know about you, but I don't want to get hit by their stray bullet.

And at AP, COF was 3 shots standing, move right. 3 kneeling, CRAW behind cover right and 3 while on your side.
While crawling, one individual swept himself.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Clarence on March 04, 2021, 02:38:56 PM
Oh I agree in the value of training.   I have been shooting and owning guns for over 50 years.  When I got my training in 2013, I learned a lot.  I thought I knew it all.  I was wrong.

Some states that require licenses do not require training. Most do.  But my philosophy is that you are responsible for yourself. Absolutely folks should get training. 

Another thing.   Gun dealers should ( but NOT mandated by law) give at least a rudimentary training session to anyone who is a novice gun owner.  Like what you have seen from trainees, I have witnessed at gun shops over the years, totally befuddled individuals being sold a gun with not the slightest idea how to use it.   I was so disturbed by this some years ago that I followed the couple out to their car and gave them a 10 minute instruction including the safety basics and how to load and unload.  I went back in the shop and told the guy behind the counter and he basically said he did not have time for that and it wasn’t his problem.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on March 04, 2021, 03:03:38 PM
Today,  gun shops can't offer the training. With the lines and demand. Prior to the current climate yes.

I've been doing some noob instruction. 
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Packing_Nine on March 04, 2021, 06:05:30 PM
Gun dealers should (but NOT mandated by law) give at least a rudimentary training session to anyone who is a novice gun owner.

This sounds great in principle, but in practice I don't believe it works. If a business with a product to sell (any business, not just firearms) is in a position where they "should" provide some service to complement the product they sold, who says whether or not the provided service is sufficient and necessary? Who provides compensation to the vendor for this service? What if the customer refuses the service, or believes they are not in need of it? What if the customer accepts said service, but miserably fails to absorb the knowledge? Is the seller now somehow responsible for the customer's lack of competency? How long will it be before various parties, not satisfied with the due diligence ensured by the honor system, begin to insist that the "should" become a "must"? And then it turns into a mandate by law, and all the bureaucracy that follows?

Honestly, I believe that firearms safety & basic proficiency must be taught either in the home, or in the schools.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Radnor on March 04, 2021, 07:10:46 PM
Yeah. As I was reading your post, I was thinking liability...

I'm not sure where it's at Sandyhook law suit. I can see it making it to the SCOTUS. If it goes will car mfgs be next for drunk drivers?  I'd like money from whoever made my spoons. (They made me fat)
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: Just Bill on March 04, 2021, 11:08:16 PM
Agree, training should be required.  At least what can happen when they do pull the firearm.  You may think you're right, but you can still get locked up.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on March 05, 2021, 03:13:28 PM
Also agree. Anybody that buys a gun should have to have completed at least a basic firearms course.
You don't jump out of a boat without some training or lessons in swimming. The results could be deadly.
Same as giving someone a gun with no training. It's called common sense.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on March 09, 2021, 10:33:52 PM
Missouri  to pass bill allowing concealed carry on public busses, and Kansas looking to lower age to carry to 18.
Title: Re: STATES DOING AWAY WITH THE NEED FOR CCW PERMIT
Post by: SturmRugerSR9 on March 18, 2021, 11:13:51 PM
Well, Iowa went and did it. The passed the bill to do away for the need of a permit to conceal carry in their state.

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2021/03/18/iowa-house-passes-bill-abolish-concealed-carry-permit-requirement/