Author Topic: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban  (Read 21721 times)

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No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« on: November 28, 2012, 04:37:58 PM »
If you listen to the anti-gun crowd you would think the so called "assault weapon," which is really nothing more then a magazine fed rifle that is black with a scary pistol grip, is a menace that must be reigned in.

No so fast says the FBI.  

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The FBI has released their 2007-2011 “Murder Victims by Weapon” report. The results are contradictory to anti-gun industry claims that relaxing the ban on assault weapons will cause more crime.

The report indicates you are more likely to be killed by hands or feet than by a rifle or shotgun.

That's right, hands and feet. Hurry and buy your Nike's and Isotoners before they are banned too!!

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In 2011 there were 356 shotgun murders and 323 rifle murders for a total of 679 murders.

It is estimated that there is somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 millions gun owners in this country (legal owners).  While any murder is tragic, the epidemic of "assault Weapon" violence just does not exist, it is a made-up phenomenon.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/27/fbi-crime-stats-you-are-more-likely-to-be-killed-by-hands-and-feet-than-by-a-shotgun-or-rifle/

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2012, 05:34:14 PM »
So that's what they mean when people say their feet are killing them! :D
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 10:58:44 PM »
I'm wondering what the "97 other guns" are, if not rifle, shotgun, handgun. Potato gun or what?
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 11:12:22 PM »
The gun control crowd buried their teeth into the military style weapons and are shacking it like wolves.  With every TV show and every movie proving that everyone has one and they are all fully automatic and LE is always out gunned and sometimes even cars explode when shot with one, why believe anything else.  Good citizens just happening by are shot repeatedly and each shot knocks their body 10 feet and every van that is opened and every house raided prove yet again how much these evil elements have multiplied and corrupted all men.

If its not an AK or AR its a Glock.  Every show!
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 12:00:34 AM »
You can pretty much bank on an assault weapons ban as a federal law again...soon. Oh well perhaps they should be.

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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 12:30:31 AM »
You can pretty much bank on an assault weapons ban as a federal law again...soon. Oh well perhaps they should be.

Did you mean " Oh well perhaps "there" should be????

being new myself, I will let one of the older menbers comment!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 12:43:11 AM »
There is not one among us that is not heartbroken about the Sandy Hook School shooting.  I think It’s OK to wish all evil will just go away.  Maybe so-called assault weapons need to go away.

While we dream about the perfect world we must live in the real world.  New laws won’t do a thing.  Bans don’t work.  A fix for Sandy Hook cannot be legislated.
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 12:50:01 AM »
My predictions (as a liberal), based on my experience that Obama can't pass anything bigger than a kidney stone.

On AWB2:
1) DiFi will introduce an AWB, as promised, with several sponsors. In its original form, it will suck. There will not be a corresponding bill introduced in the House.
2) If it's not anonymously filibustered, AWB2 will be heavily watered down before it is passed and sent to the House.
3) Most of the bill will disintegrate in the House's version.
4) It will take months to move it through the House-Senate conference committee.
5) The final version will be filibustered again.

Since not a single provision in DiFi's bill will actually prevent crime, and banning anything in general possession right now will simply move it into the hands of criminals (at huge profits for the former owners), the death or dilution of this bill will not endanger children. Or anyone else.

Meanwhile, look forward to...
--BATFE opening up NICS to private sales, and forcing sales of more than maybe one gun per decade to go through a check with retroactive penalties.
--Lots of sneaky "Patriot" Act stuff, done in the background by executive order and the privately-run Total Information Awareness descendant programs through analysis of Internet sales, credit card records and other consumer tracking. If you're going to buy anything cool, buy it now, and don't be surprised when the government retroactively questions your purchase of 1000 rounds of ammo.
--Various states f***ing up their repressive gun laws even worse. Washington DC, NJ and Illinois will use it as an excuse to fight recent court decisions.
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 01:20:22 AM »
The FIRST AWB did NOT stop the sale of them.
They are just going after those evil looking things...  The AWB of 1994-2004
did NOTHING!!!

We do NOT need any more gun laws, 20,000 is enough.  Need to start looking
at mental health and other issues.  Leave the guns alone.
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 01:40:04 AM »
No Gun laws of any kind will ever deter a "Madman". I just went to the site PoliceOne... all I can say is "Yes, we are all in Denial"

Everyone should check out that thread. People who have gotten their CCDW'S are people who have decided that they do not want to

be a victim. Read Robert Boatman's book "Living with a Glock" Chapter 20 " Constitutional Right and Social Obligation to Carry A Gun"
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 01:43:07 AM »
I do not think congress will pass such a ban. The ban will come by Executive Order. >:(

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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2012, 02:06:35 AM »
and every bit of it will conflict with the 2A   "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2012, 02:40:49 AM »
I do not think congress will pass such a ban. The ban will come by Executive Order. >:(

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Re: No Need For "Assault" Weapons Ban
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 12:29:49 PM »
While they are banning the nasty assault rifle, they should ban drugs as well. That would make America a safer place.  ???

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