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SCUBA9097

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Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« on: January 26, 2014, 04:19:15 AM »
Am I the only one not "drooling" over this new R.I.P. ammo?

http://bearingarms.com/g2-researchs-r-i-p-is-the-last-round-youll-ever-need-um-no/

In my opinion, they have done a phenomenal job at marketing, but it's not something I would ever consider carrying for personal defense.
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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2014, 04:38:24 AM »
Just posted this in another section.. Should have posted it here I guess.

While I'd love to get me some and put it through my firearm I'm not sure I'd carry it just yet. I'd still want to see more testing. It does look simply devastating though.

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 11:30:14 AM »
Boy, this new ammo sure gets your Adrenolin pumping!  :D
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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2014, 03:42:54 PM »
"Um, no"
Agree with the title.
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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2014, 06:50:59 PM »
Boy, this new ammo sure gets your Adrenolin pumping!  :D

Lol I do like seeing new technologies. It's exciting to see what could be.

As I've stated I doubt I'd carry it simply because it hasn't been independently tested enough. I'd still like to see how it cycles through my defensive firearms out of curiosity. That said if someone were looking to do me or my family harm the entire idea of self defense is to stop said person. The reason you don't carry FMJs in your carry weapon is because the Hollow Point effectively stops the person faster due to more internal trauma. This simply adds more internal trauma, so they say.

10 years from now the idea behind this new round could be what everyone carries.

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 03:40:28 AM »
Adrenolin,

You would probably love to see some of the "display" ammunition I have. Some of the rounds I have were created by major manufacturers 20+/- years ago but never released to the public.

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 03:55:55 AM »
Maybe be something useful but it reminds me of the "new fishing lure" syndrome.
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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2014, 03:54:03 PM »
We shot a guy at 30 and Governor Printz wearing a down coat.  Feathers went everywhere! (looked like a chicken coop exploded).   It put him down  but the coat did absorb a lot of the energy. 

After watching the video I wouldn't want to be shot with them, then again,  I don't want to be shot with anything.  But I will bet you a dollar to a donut the press will have them labeled as "cop killer bullets" or some such other frightening name.  Doctors will complain about the sharp fragments cutting through their gloves.  The government will buy 40 billion dollars worth. 
Just my guess. 

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 06:22:05 PM »
Who remembers when the Winchester Black Talon ammo came out? It was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Then, in the early 90's, several civilian shootings happened involving them and the media had a field day with it. Of course, it was the ammo's fault (eye roll).  Winchester pulled them from production. They eventually released them again under a different name.  The media caught on again and Winchester killed it all together...  until 2009.  Now, they're happily back on the market under SXT (some say it stands for Same eXact Thing).  But with only a few minor changes to the coating and some cavity dimensions, a very similar round is alive and well.

This round, I suspect, will go similarly like the Black Talon. It's ugly, claims to pack one heck of a destruction path, and is lead free.  Why wouldn't anyone want to carry the new RIP round? http://youtu.be/mJGH7cDFw7c God forbid, if I ever had to use my firearm to protect myself, I sure as heck wouldnt want to sit there thinking man, I wish I had a more powerful round considering the bad guy who is shooting at me, is using this devastating round.  If you're already carrying a firearm, you're already taking responsibility for your actions - should you have to defend yourself or loved ones.  Right?  You didn't simply complete your CCW class and now go to the range here and there to "practice", right?  You're continuing your "education" and taking situational awareness classes.  Oh, you're not? Shame on you! 

This round is like no other and is not released to the public yet.  YET.  At $40 for 20 rounds, I doubt many folks will be buying a ton of this to take to the range.  But like any other round you carry, you should do your research and homework.  That's what a responsible CCW'er does.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled program.

Moosie
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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 06:46:46 PM »
Good advice!  Moosie should offer eduactional credtis to people that read her comments.  This one is easily worth .5 credit hours.
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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2014, 06:57:04 PM »
LMAO, umm..  thank you, but no.

Oh, and FYI...  I stand corrected. It HAS been released for public purchase.  I'm trying to find details on it.. is it limited to only specific states, etc.  I'll post the info if I can find there are limitations on it.  Oh, and you'll all be happy to know that today, one box.  a SINGLE box of 20 rounds of RIP ammo has reached $350 on gunbroker. That's $17.50 per round.   ;D Happy bidding you crazy kids!  LOL

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2014, 09:24:57 PM »
Yeah I was going to correct you but you noticed they we already available.. Though sold out. Their max monthly production currently is 60,000 rounds and they sold out the first day. Sales are only through a few LGS in their area but also through 5-6 online vendors. Unfortunately their stock sold out so quickly most of the online vendors didn't get any in time.

As I said, I'd like to pickup a couple boxes mainly to see how they shoot and cycle though my firearm. I have no issues with anyone using it in their carry piece however I do have issues carrying an untested round and at this time the ammo is untested. Until I see it independently tested I'd certainly not carry it. The legal issues are really no more different then what was (and still is) said about today's hollow points by the prosecution. They are so much more deadly and devastating then a 'standard' FMJ bullcrud. If you need to defend yourself or your family then the point is to stop the attacker by any means necessary. If this round does work as good as they claim and once tested and proven then it could be a great choice.

If one can get away then great however Violence is usually only stopped by someone with the ability to produce more violence then the initiator.

Edit.. I'm a pretty laid back guy.. Really I am :)

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2014, 09:58:20 PM »
Head over to gunbroker.com.  They had several boxes available...  last price I saw was $350 a box. So, pick up a few boxes LOL

Here's one of the things that I've started to see at an alarming rate...  people "reviewing" or "testing" guns, gear, ammo, sites, etc..  what makes them the best qualified person to be passing judgement on all of those things??  Make sure you know who's feeding you info.  In the last two months I've been all over the country (and out of the country as well) and I've had the privilege to meet and hang out with folks from various industries and various backgrounds. Some have started publishing "reviews"...  this is nothing more than what THEY feel are the strong points or weak points of whatever they're reviewing.  Most often, many people disagree with their view, but oh wait...  it's published on the internet and they claim to have lots of experience, training, etc. 

Bottom line, read, read, and read more. And then, do your own research. Since I dont think we have any ballistics experts on this site (please.. correct me if I'm wrong), how will you interpret the data that is shown, once "independent" testing is done? 

Don't drink the kool-aid before the party. Do your own research.

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2014, 05:28:52 AM »
Chuckles.. Independent testing certainly isn't Billy Bob posting his backyard field shooting tests on YouTube. I'm well aware of this but thanks  ;D

Gunbroker.. Ahh the people with more money then brains. Don't think so. It's like the 4lb bottle of W231 on GunBroker bid up to $265 bucks already with a few days yet to go.

I called and got placed on a waiting list for their next batch and ordered a couple boxes. Figure at least another month or so before they ship.

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Re: Not "drooling" over R.I.P ammo.
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2014, 10:21:17 PM »
I still have a box of black talon ammo in 9mm. If anyone wants to give me $350 for the box, I'm all in.
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