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« Reply #210 on: December 06, 2017, 04:19:26 PM »

This passed the house today.  6 democrats voted for it and 14 Republicans voted against it.  231 to 198.  The bill would also "enhance" background checks. Some also wanted a ban on so called "bump stocks", but this was not attached to the bill. 

Unless this gets some Democratic support in the Senate it is unlikely to pass.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/363628-house-passes-concealed-carry-gun-bill
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« Reply #211 on: December 06, 2017, 04:49:23 PM »

Glad to hear this passed in the House. But you are right, the real fight will be in the US Senate. It will take every Republican plus VP Pence to get this through. Problem is "Never Trumpers" like John McCain and a few others would like nothing better that to screww Trump, ever at the price of screwing 73% of Americans that favor this legislation. This will be politics at its worst.
Of course all the Democrat anti-gunners have to do is vote "NO" and let the "Never Trumpers" take the blame for the Trump loss.
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« Reply #212 on: December 06, 2017, 05:12:33 PM »

I am encouraged with the passing of the bill in the house but as all have said the real test is in the senate.
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« Reply #213 on: December 07, 2017, 09:46:18 AM »

Of course our own Blunt-Rochester voted against it. Who'da thunk?

This needs to be remembered come election time.
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« Reply #214 on: December 08, 2017, 10:08:50 AM »

HR 38 assigned to Senate Juduciary Cmte. Its members are:
Republican Members:
Grassley, Chuck (IA) , Chairman
Hatch, Orrin G. (UT)
Graham, Lindsey (SC)
Cornyn, John (TX)
Lee, Mike (UT)
Cruz, Ted (TX)
Sasse, Ben (NE)
Flake, Jeff (AZ)
Crapo, Mike (ID)
Tillis, Thom (NC)
Kennedy, John (LA)
Democrat Members:
Feinstein, Dianne (CA), Ranking Member
Leahy, Patrick J. (VT)
Durbin, Richard J. (IL)
Whitehouse, Sheldon (RI)
Klobuchar, Amy (MN)
Franken, Al (MN)
Coons, Christopher A. (DE)
Blumenthal, Richard (CT)
Hirono, Mazie K. (HI)
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« Reply #215 on: December 08, 2017, 11:02:16 AM »

You know DiFi & Coons will be voting for it. Wink
Dont see any of the D's going for it.

Hopefully all the R's will vote for it.

When's Al's last day?  That will be 1 less NO.
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« Reply #216 on: December 08, 2017, 11:55:04 AM »

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When's Al's last day?  That will be 1 less NO.
Al (Groper) Franken said “in the coming weeks”. It could be that he might try to renege if Roy Moore is elected but that would be a ‘tough row to hoe’ when 33 Dem senators told him to resign. They would have to appear to be flip-floppers.
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« Reply #217 on: December 08, 2017, 12:43:56 PM »

Chairman Chuck Grassley and 4 of the other Repubs are signed on as Co-Sponsors
to the Senate version of HR 38, which is S.466. John Cornyn is the one that wrote the bill and has been working to get this passes for years.
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« Reply #218 on: December 08, 2017, 06:55:46 PM »

I received this today.  It's a lot of questions and answers about HR 38.  Very interesting.

www.concealedcarry.com/national/answers-to-your-questions-about-hr-38-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity/

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« Reply #219 on: December 08, 2017, 07:13:55 PM »

Bloomberg has committed to spend up to $25,000,000 to defeat just the national reciprocity bill.

IIRC, the NRA spent $24,000,000 total in both the primary and general election supporting Trump ($14M supporting him, $10M attacking his opponents).

This is going to be an unbelievably nasty fight....
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« Reply #220 on: December 08, 2017, 09:03:20 PM »

I received this today.  It's a lot of questions and answers about HR 38.  Very interesting.

www.concealedcarry.com/national/answers-to-your-questions-about-hr-38-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity/
I disagree with the author's conclusion that mag limits imposed by a State are overridden. HR 38 says:
“(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that—

“(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or

“(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park.

I interpret 'restrict' to leave State laws in place based on the premise that property is either privately owned or State owned, e.g., an NJ street belongs to State or local government. If you are moseying around NJ outside of FOPA, you had better be carrying a 10 round mag.  If this isn't the correct interpretation, the Senate is likely to revise the bill to accommodate the States.
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« Reply #221 on: December 09, 2017, 08:06:36 AM »

Received this HR 38 update today:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38/text?loclr=cga-bill
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« Reply #222 on: December 11, 2017, 02:50:09 PM »

Not good news from Fox News on the Senate proceedings
Despite last week's fanfare, any Senate vote on concealed carry is not expected until next spring, sources said Monday.
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« Reply #223 on: December 11, 2017, 05:35:09 PM »

We can put the blame soley on the lap of Mitch McConnell.
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« Reply #224 on: December 11, 2017, 06:10:42 PM »

It’s no surprise though.
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