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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2016, 07:42:15 PM »
Is this a homework assignment, a less-than-knowledgeable instructor, or a deliberate obfuscation? Maybe DE doesn't want us to know the correct answer. As an instructor, the first thing I did after class was to find out the answer to questions like this.

The DE Dept of Gaming Enforcement lists Lottery Laws in the banner.
That links to Bill 310 which is:
AN ACT TO AMEND TITLES 3, 11 AND 29 OF THE DELAWARE CODE RELATING TO THE OPERATION OF TABLE GAMES BY THE DELAWARE LOTTERY, THE CREATION OF A DIVISION OF GAMING ENFORCEMENT WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY AND HOMELAND SECURITY, LICENSING OF VIDEO LOTTERY AGENT PERSONNEL AND LOTTERY AND AGENT VENDORS, PROHIBITION ON GAMING BY CERTAIN PERSONS, THE CREATION OF A LOTTERY COMMISSION, AND THE NUMBER OF HARNESS RACING DAYS.

A search for "firearms" yields a null result.

ATE and DGE are divisions of the DE Dept of Safety and Homeland Security. The ATE website is not informative on this subject.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2016, 09:31:21 PM »
I went to the DE Administrative Code website (http://regulations.delaware.gov/AdminCode/) and ran a search for all regulations including the words "firearm" and "casino."  I then searched all of those regs for instances of the word firearm and read them.  Nothing at all on point.   

Then I searched for "firearm and slot" (figuring maybe casino wasn't the correct word).   Again searched all those results for "firearm" and read.  Still nothing on point. 

I cannot find any regulation prohibiting firearms from a casino.  Seems like the only way to find it is to get charged, and see what section you're prosecuted under!   :o   (no, I'm not volunteering).

I did find a thread on this forum dating back to 2012 (http://deccw.com/index.php?topic=1681.0).   Apparently nobody has found the applicable statute or reg for four at least years now.   >:(

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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2016, 10:07:24 PM »
I asked the question Wednesday at the Citizens Academy and they told me it was a "Gaming" law written in the gaming provision.
Can someone on hear look this up so I can let them know next Wednesday what actually is written in DE state law?

-addition - I will see if I can find something in the gaming section.

I've read that before and searched through everything looking for any written law and there is nothing. If the Citizens Academy is teaching this you should request they show you the written law. I've yet to find anyone whose able to locate it. Perhaps they will learn something. 😜

Again, they says it's the law and that firearms aren't allowed however they never post or produce the law they are saying exists. It doesn't (as far as I/we can tell). If you are told something often enough, over time you believe it. Seems this is the case with with the DE ban on firearms at Casinos.



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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2016, 10:08:15 PM »
I also searched all the documents I could find on the state.de.gov web site and department of gaming. etc.
I could not find any regulation on concealed carry in a casino.

I am not done searching so I will report back later
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2016, 10:59:34 PM »
According to http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/delaware.pdf  It is prohibited to carry a gun with or with out a permit in a Delaware Casino or "slots".
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2016, 11:15:41 PM »
According to http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/delaware.pdf  It is prohibited to carry a gun with or with out a permit in a Delaware Casino or "slots".

But they also note.
I can find nothing in the DE State Statutes or the DE Administrative Rules stating Slot/Casinos are off limits.

They also say nothing about state buildings, the sticky says state buildings are off limits and the state fair. I have never found any law stating that.

But I could be overlooking it.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2016, 03:07:02 PM »
I am grateful to all of the members that took a look so far.  I enjoy the restaurants in the complex but everyone has to transgress the casino to get to them.  Clarity is needed here.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2016, 08:39:18 PM »
I have a question.

Has anyone contacted the AG's office and asked them to list the law or regulation that prohibits firearms in the casinos?  Of course, this could let them know that it may not exist and then they write a law or regulation to make it real.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 06:38:08 PM »
@MarkB It is better to have clarity than to find out otherwise when a situation happens.

I can not find anything anywhere that say you can not carry concealed in a casino. SO...............
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 08:42:36 PM »
So!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if no metal detectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2016, 12:32:52 PM »
Doubt the AG's office would tell you anything.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2016, 07:12:04 AM »
Actually the AGs office can be quite helpful. For me anyways. I've contacted them twice in the past via email(online form) regarding firearm issues. Both times I received a quick reply saying my request had been forwarded to one of their legal staff for review. In each case I received a polite detailed reply the following day which included noted sections of the law and explanations. I was quite surprised to say the least and thankful as well.

If anyone really needs a clarification then I'd suggest going to the AGs website, following the Contact links and fill out the online forum to send in your request.

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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2016, 01:21:25 PM »
Just off the phone with the investigator.  Asked the question where in the law is it stating casinos are off limits.
Could not direct me to the law but said to call the casino and ask for security or the DSP detail assigned there and ask them.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2016, 03:02:59 PM »
I'm with Joet. No metal detectors no problem. Nobody is flashing their weapons around. Concealed is concealed, just make sure you're not printing.
If they are having such a hard time finding the law it most likely isn't there.
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Re: Links to laws in sticky?
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2016, 09:18:03 PM »
I wouldn't believe whatever the casino security head has to say. Once again, where is it in Delaware code, etc?
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