Links to laws in sticky?

[Adrenolin]

Radnor... What "investigator"? Did you call the AGs office or someone else?

IMO calling the Casino Security is most likely going to be useless. Their just going to say they are banned and/or illegal to possess there. Even if you got a hold of a DSP officer they're likely to say the same. Neither the Casino Security or LEOs are lawyers and aren't going to be able to tell you the exact law or where to find it.

[Cbmarine]

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IMO calling the Casino Security is most likely going to be useless. Their just going to say they are banned and/or illegal to possess there. Even if you got a hold of a DSP officer they're likely to say the same. Neither the Casino Security or LEOs are lawyers and aren't going to be able to tell you the exact law or where to find it.

I agree. Casino security is likely trained and operating based on rules and procedures that do not refer back to the source documents, i.e., the DE law.  Even if they did know that the "no gun" law doesn't exist, I doubt that they want to incur the wrath of their superiors for letting the cat out of the bag.

Case in point: when I went for my DE drivers license, the procedure listed an either/or for the required documentation. I had the 'or' but the clerks insisted on the 'either'.  I had to appeal to a manager to get my license (and he wouldn't talk to me but approved my docs). So they were following the word-of-mouth typical method despite the written procedure.

[Radnor]

Radnor... What "investigator"? Did you call the AGs office or someone else?

From the AG's office.

Long story but....
Dale Broome called me wanting me to put my NRA credentials on my CCDW certificates.
So they could verify I was on the list of instructors.  So I did, along with a disclaimer
stating it was not an official NRA course.  (To put my credentials on a non-NRA certificate,
Per the NRA - I must add it was not an official NRA course.)

This prompted a call from the AG's investigator. So I found the page in my TC Guide
where it talks about using the info on non NRA material and emailed it to him within
about an hour.  Gave him a few hours to look it over.  Then I called him to follow up.
I was thanked for being so prompt and was told he wished all instructors did the same.

Then I sent him an email stating I could not find the code anywhere asking if he could
point me in the right direction.  He referred me to casino security or DSP there for
clarification.


Side note...  I found the number they call out on 298 prefix is a black hole.
Think it is out bound only.  Fortunately, I was given his direct number from
another person.

[Hawkeye]

I will repeat my earlier post:

For what it is worth I called the Division of Gaming Enforcement a couple of years ago about carrying in the casinos and I was told that there is no law against it. It is merely their policy not to allow firearms.

This, then, brings us to:

Title 11, Part I, Chapter 2. General Provisions Concerning Offenses
§ 202. All offenses defined by statute.
(a) No conduct constitutes a criminal offense unless it is made a criminal offense by this Criminal Code or by another law.

In simple terms, if it is not written in the code as an offense then it is not illegal. We are exerting a lot of time trying to find where it specifically says it is legal or illegal to carry in the casinos. The truth of the matter is its absence makes it legal. If someone says it is illegal, they have to point to the actual law and in this case the law seems not to exist. However, like I said, they admitted to me that there is no law, it is their policy not to allow it.

[JOET]

@Hawkeye...agree...agree..agree...

here are my other two posts on the subject.

So!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if no metal detectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

signs have no force of law.. and concealed is concealed..

[Landmgr]

@Hawkeye...agree...agree..agree...

here are my other two posts on the subject.

So!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if no metal detectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

signs have no force of law.. and concealed is concealed..

Speaking of medal detectors, is there a list anywhere of medal detector locations.  Or maybe a bunch of folks could weigh in with locations. I agree with signs aren't law and concealed is concealed, but I would hate to go somewhere and get busted by a medal detector. Thanks in advance for any info.

[Adrenolin]

I believe you'll see Casinos removed from the Handgunlaws website on the next update.. Mid week coming. Gary tells me he removed the note alongside Casinos, which some of you may remember, a while back but forgot to remove the Casinos line as well.

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