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Author Topic: Lancaster County Will stop Issuing Non Resident Permits  (Read 4272 times)
Beretta92
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« on: April 02, 2018, 08:41:38 AM »

I need to renew my PA, non resident CCW permit, today I found this notice on the Lancaster County Sheriff Home Page.

License to Carry Permit Changes​
Updated 03/19/18

As of June 1st, 2018, the Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office will no longer process out of state Conceal Carry Permits. If you currently possess a Lancaster County Conceal Carry Permit and you are not a resident of Lancaster County, PA, your permit will no longer be valid upon expiration. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2018, 09:01:09 AM »

When asked, I always promoted Berks, Bucks, and Lancaster Co.

Bucks Co -> BUCK’S COUNTY ONLY ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FOR NON-RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN A STATE THAT HAS RECIPROCITY AGREEMENTS WITH PENNSYLVANIA AND HAVE A CARRY PERMIT WITH NO RESTRICTIONS FROM THE STATE THAT THEY RESIDE IN.

So they are out.

I did mine at the Reading Airport 5 years ago.  Must do mine again this year.

You could try Media.  Media will be 2 trips unless you are renewing a LTCF. (Renewal info from Just Bill I believe)
I do NOT know if renewing your Lancaster Co. LTCF at Media will be 1 trip or 2.
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2018, 09:37:29 AM »

When asked, I always promoted Berks, Bucks, and Lancaster Co.

Bucks Co -> BUCK’S COUNTY ONLY ACCEPTS APPLICATIONS FOR NON-RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN A STATE THAT HAS RECIPROCITY AGREEMENTS WITH PENNSYLVANIA AND HAVE A CARRY PERMIT WITH NO RESTRICTIONS FROM THE STATE THAT THEY RESIDE IN.
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So Bucks County is saying “We will only issue a non-resident permit to you if you don’t need one”?
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2018, 01:12:16 PM »

I carry a PA Non-Resident permit because when I go to the state my son lived in they don't accept a Delaware Permit, but do accept a PA permit. Well, I guess that shoots that in the @@@. Mine runs out in October 2018. Is it still possible to get a renewal by mail anywhere in PA.?
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2018, 04:06:52 PM »

IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time.  If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.  

Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below
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Alaska Georgia Louisiana New Hampshire South Dakota West Virginia Arizona1
Indiana Michigan North Carolina Tennessee Wisconsin Arkansas
Iowa Mississippi1 North Dakota2 Texas Wyoming
Colorado Kansas Missouri Ohio Utah1 Florida1
Kentucky Montana Oklahoma Virginia1
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1Pennsylvania Honors Non-Resident Permits/Licenses From the States They Honor Except for Arizona, Florida, Mississippi, Utah and Virginia. They have agreements that specifically states “Legal Resident of AZ, FL, MS, UT and VA. You can see the agreements Here. AZ, FL, MS, UT and VA Permit/Licenses issued to non-residents are no longer valid in PA
North Dakota2 - PA only honors the ND Class 1 Permit. (Must be 21 Years of Age)
 
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2018, 04:57:58 PM »


 
Evidently, you can't renew when ever you want. It must be within 60 days of expiration according to this from another site:

Copy and paste from a PA county site:
My License expires soon. How soon can I apply for a renewal?
You may apply up to 60 days before the date of expiration of your current License. We will not accept applications that are completed more than 60 days prior to expiration.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2018, 04:54:35 AM »

Berks Co or Delaware Co.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 05:17:55 AM »

IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time.  If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.  

Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below

IANAL, but I think NH is a NO GO.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf
2nd paragraph of the agreement.
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 06:33:15 AM »

Just off the phone with a lovely lady from DelCo.  She said they take up to the 45 days allowed
for new AND renewals.  WILL issue non-res LTCF(s).  $20.00 CASH.

Depends on where you got the original and/or where you go.  Some are 30 min, some are 2 wks.  My initial trip to Media(Delaware County) was two trips about 2 wks apart.  Renewal was about 15-20 minutes.  You must have your current DE permit, but expiration does not seem to matter.

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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 07:04:33 AM »

IIRC, we can renew PA LTCF at any time.  If so, I'll be headed north before Jun 1st.  

Pennsylvania does recognize NH non-resident ($100 for 5 years)
From handgunlaw.us Pennsylvania webpage
Permits/Licenses This State Honors Listed Below

IANAL, but I think NH is a NO GO.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Signed_NH_Agreement.pdf
2nd paragraph of the agreement.
By my reading the NH non-resident permit would be recognized by PA. The second paragraph is a description of the purpose and mentions “citizens” of NH but the first enumerated paragraph states “ will recognize valid New Hampshire permits” without limit to resident permits. Then again, PA could revise the 2004 reciprocity agreement at any time as they did with AZ, FL, & UT among others.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2018, 07:29:17 AM »

I do have a non resident PA permit issued by the Media, PA Sheriff. It expires mid April. Unlike Delaware it expires even if you have renewed. That is why I looked at Lancaster, PA, because I can drive up and get it the same day. I may re apply for the Media, PA permit and also get one from Lancaster.

Can you have two permits from different PA. counties?
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 09:25:31 AM »

That’ll hit me next year.  So far, I’ve had Centre, York, and Lancaster — and now it looks like I’ll have to shop for another.  It really doesn’t make any sense, because it’s not negatively impacting the other jurisdiction (if that is their plan) — just the people willing to come from there and spend money in Pennsylvania.

And I can’t even begin to imagine what they’ll change between now and then.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2018, 03:36:13 PM »

All of this beginning to worry me about PA recip.  Some will issue non-resident, some will not.  Is my DELCO permit good in other PA counties, etc.Huh??  Is the Wolf doctrine spreading???  Sounds like Cal....NAH!!!

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2018, 04:05:58 PM »

Sounds political to me. Looks like the Liberal Democrats are flexing their muscle on the county sheriffs. Seems odd that after all these years they have just decided to stop issuing non-resident state permits, at the county level. I'm betting there's more to it than meets the eye.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2018, 05:33:10 AM »

Went to Lancaster, PA. Court House yesterday, applied for and received my non resident permit in 20 minutes total time. It I valid in all 67 PA. counties.

I asked why they are not going to issue non residents permits after June 1, 2018. The answer is that the new sheriff is not confident in the system that should notify them that a non resident  permit holder committed an offense that would require that their permit be invalidated. They were very helpful and friendly people.

They are trying to get the word out that if you are within two months of having your PA non resident permit expire to come in asap and renew.

After June 1 they suggested to go to York county for a non resident permit.
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