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« on: March 11, 2019, 08:30:33 PM »

On Wednesday, at 1:00pm in the House Majority Hearing Room, the House Judiciary Committee is scheduled to consider gun control legislation HB63 as alerted by NRA-ILA. 

This bill makes it a misdemeanor to “unsafe[ly] storage of a firearm when the person intentionally or recklessly stores or leaves a loaded firearm within the reach or easy access of a an unauthorized person and where the unauthorized person obtains the firearm.” Currently the law is limited to “a minor”.

Affirmative defenses:
”The firearm was stored in a locked box or container, disabled with a tamper-resistant trigger lock which was properly engaged so as to render the firearm inoperable by a person other than the owner or other lawfully-authorized user, or stored in a location which a reasonable person would have believed to be secure from access by an unauthorized person.
(2) The unauthorized person obtained the firearm as the result of an unlawful entry by any person.


Personally I feel that this unnecessarily enforces what should be a standard practice.


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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2019, 07:56:42 AM »

But there are so many people that have firearms setting behind a door or laying in a drawer, or on a table where they can be easily accessed, just because they are too lazy to secure them.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2019, 08:07:28 AM »

and so it begins.  It matters not if this will save lives, their favorite phrase.."if it saves one life it is needed".  It will likely make criminals of those of us that never were.  If I know leftist politicians, it will be worded in such a way that too much is left to interpretation.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2019, 05:09:10 AM »

What good is a self defense gun(not allowed to use the "W" word, ask Radnor) that is locked up with a trigger lock??  I am one of those you described, with loaded guns all over the house.  But there are no people younger than 65 in the house.  Where kids, with the curiosity of cats are around, those things should be safely secured.

Any one with news of the legislature goings on.  Since the dems are in control, I assume they all agreed this is absolutely necessary.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2019, 07:39:14 AM »

That's right the "W" will cost you $10.00.


Rep Bill Bush was with us today and DID NOT vote to release HB 63 safe storage from committee.
It did come out of committee.


IMHO, this is just the start of it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2019, 07:41:02 AM »

Technically, you should be good with the break-in provision as long as you file a police report.  What happens in real life may be another question.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 04:17:36 PM »

I got the report from the republican house committee, sounds like it is going to "we(dems) are in charge, so suck it, you can't stop us now."  Screw the people!!
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 12:55:17 PM »

I too have guns around when home. No kids in my household either. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2019, 06:11:53 AM »

This bill hits the house floor on Tues.  As I mentioned a while back, they are in the process of turning me into a criminal.  Firearms that are safely locked away are of no use for self defense.  This just their first step to showing me the inside of the Smyrna Hilton.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2019, 11:21:18 AM »

Liability depends on the prosecutor. Worthwhile strengthening this language:

HB 63 Affirmative defenses:
”The firearm was stored in a locked box or container, disabled with a tamper-resistant trigger lock which was properly engaged so as to render the firearm inoperable by a person other than the owner or other lawfully-authorized user, or stored in a location which a reasonable person would have believed to be secure from access by an unauthorized person.
(2) The unauthorized person obtained the firearm as the result of an unlawful entry by any person.
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 12:48:02 PM »

When I was fetched up in Dover a long time ago, a reasonable person would not even enter a house if the door was open., but it was rarely locked.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2019, 04:23:17 AM »

According to the legislature website, HB63 passed 22-19 on tues.  Since it was put to the floor yesterday and already passed, there must have been a lot of debate...NOT!!  I have no doubt it will also pass the senate which will make me a criminal with the stroke of Carneys pen.  Next up, semi's, magazines, and probably more.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2019, 04:41:09 AM »

This is from the shining light Larry Mitchell....

In reply to your earlier scenario, if the repairman is a juvenile, mental health issues or felony convictions then they are an unauthorized user. This is the current law that define persons prohibited.

I will support this bill because it provided.      safe storage within the home and does not violate anyone’s rights.


And my question...
Dear Mr. Mitchell,

I am AGAINST HB63 and request you vote the same way.

The language in the Bill is too vague.  What if a repairman I invited in
to repair an appliance gets access to my firearm I have stored for home defense?

About the only acceptable item is the affirmative defense for unlawful entry.

Again I ask you vote NO.


Looking forward to your reply.


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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2019, 07:22:46 AM »

My letter to my rep, Seigfried, resulted in his Y vote, which I assumed he would do.   Not sense in wasting a letter to my far left senator.  So now I am a criminal, because I will not unload/lock my guns away.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2019, 10:28:22 AM »

The Government vs Rights:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/26/socialism-is-rooted-in-godlessness/
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