New York Has A Hissy Fit

[Clarence]

The New York Democratic establishment is going crazy because of the overturning of their unconstitutional carry laws.   While states like California and New Jersey are grudgingly realizing that they will have to issues carry licenses to law abiding citizens in future, New York is striking back with a vengeance making carry licenses useless. 

See this:

The Supreme Court ruling struck down a previous rule requiring people to demonstrate an unusual threat to their safety to get a license to carry a handgun outside their homes. That restriction generally limited the licenses to people who had worked in law enforcement or had another special need that went beyond routine public safety concerns.

Under the new system, the state wouldn’t authorize permits for people with criminal convictions within the past five years for driving while intoxicated, menacing or third-degree assault.

People also wouldn’t be allowed to carry firearms at a long list of “sensitive places,” including New York City’s tourist-packed Times Square.

That list also includes schools, universities, government buildings, places where people have gathered for public protests, health care facilities, places of worship, libraries, public playgrounds and parks, day care centers, summer camps, addiction and mental health centers, shelters, public transit, bars, theaters, stadiums, museums, polling places and casinos.

New York would also bar people from bringing guns into any business or workplace unless the owners put up signs saying guns are welcome. People who bring guns into places without such signs could be prosecuted on felony charges.

That’s a reverse approach from many other states where businesses that want to keep guns out are usually required to post signs indicating weapons aren’t allowed.

Gun advocates said the bill infringes on rights upheld by the Supreme Court.

“Now we’re going to let the pizzeria owner decide whether or not I can express my constitutional right,” said Sen. Andrew Lanza, a Staten Island Republican. “This is a disgrace. See you in the courts. You all know this is unconstitutional. You all know this is just a ruse. Another attempt to say to the people of the state of New York: ‘We don’t trust you.’”

Of course this will not stand up in court.

We won on “keep” in Heller 2008
We won on “bear” in NYRPA in 2022
Next the final fight:   “infringe”

[Radnor]

From the News Urinal....

 ALBANY, N.Y. – New York lawmakers approved a sweeping overhaul Friday of the state’s handgun licensing rules, seeking to preserve some limits on firearms after the Supreme Court ruled that most people have a right to carry a handgun for personal protection.

The measure, signed by Gov. Kathy Hochul after passing both chambers by wide margins, is almost sure to draw more legal challenges from gun rights advocates who said the state is still putting too many restrictions on who can get guns and where they can carry them.

Backers said the law, which takes effect Sept. 1, strikes the right balance between complying with the Supreme Court’s ruling and keeping weapons out of the hands of people likely to use them recklessly or with criminal intent.

Among other things, the state’s new rules will require people applying for a handgun license to turn over a list of their social media accounts so officials could verify their 'character and conduct.'

Applicants will have to show they have 'the essential character, temperament and judgment necessary to be entrusted with a weapon and to use it only in a manner that does not endanger oneself and others.'

As part of that assessment, applicants have to turn over a list of social media accounts they’ve maintained in the past three years.

'Sometimes, they’re telegraphing their intent to cause harm to others,' Hochul said at a news conference.

Gun rights advocates and Republican leaders were incensed, saying the legislation not only violated the Second Amendment, but also privacy and free speech rights.

'New Yorkers’ constitutional freedoms were just trampled on,' state Republican Chair Nick Langworthy said.

The bill approved by lawmakers doesn’t specify whether applicants will be required to provide licensing officers with access to private social media accounts not visible to the general public.

People applying for a license to carry a handgun will also have to provide four character references, take 16 hours of firearms safety training plus 2 hours of practice at a range, undergo periodic background checks and turn over contact information for their spouse, domestic partner or any other adults living in their household.

[Oaklandopen]

imagine having a petting zoo on your property with lambs and goats, then the state comes by and makes you put a fence around the petting zoo so no one could experience it, then someone above the state telling the state they have to take the fence down and allow the petting to continue, then the state saying "ok, but we are making you put lions and tigers in there instead of the lambs and goats"

[Clarence]

Oh yeah.   By the way believe it or not they passed a law banning citizens from owning a bullet proof vest.   

I kid you not.   You can’t make this crap up. 

[Clarence]

Murphy in New Jersey wants to make carry licenses useless too.   

His proposal would ban gun on all private property. all government property, restaurants, grocery stores. 


https://www.nj.com/politics/2022/06/murphy-wants-to-ban-guns-at-nj-hospitals-public-transit-bars-and-more-after-supreme-court-ruling.html?utm_source=social&utm_medium=youtube&utm_campaign=njcom_native_yt&utm_content=njcom_native_yt_video&_gl=1*1ywiac1*_ga*RG95aFQ0ZjdXRVdwVE1MUndkRFdLUU04LWZTeHh4a05kVlRPRFk0V3E4X2liRG54cXptanF0aWE5MWhtZ1dnXw..&amp_bc=1*4vr6ie*amp_cid*MXNIdDBmcjR0QjhkcHVhN2x3cXZRRVBNanBIelhqWkQtUmpickFJUUpJTlozZHNoMy1xd1djeXd0WV9ULU5FOA..

Guess he doesn’t know what “shall not be infringed” means. 

Hopefully he will find out